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I had a game yssterday where my opponent's charriot charged my wheel thanks tp it needing like 8 and I rolled trip 2. And he swears down impact hits are resolved before the combat phase even begining combat phase thus denying me my grind attacks done at the start and people with asf. While I may have missed something. Could someonr clarify this and reference page no etc

Sorry if been done before and thanks in advance

Only issue with option 3 being we are both controlling players and in a tournament neither player would back down. As in this case the whhel had already battered 2 units of chariots and was taking on his 3rd charging unit. With 1 wound left

Thanks for page reference. And with some cross checking under basic versus advanced on pg11.

I would like to point out anyone claiming impact hits first the grind are wrong. In fact the actual way it would work is grind then impact hits. Thanks to this one paragraph:

"On rare occassions, a conflict will arise between a rule in this book (aka Impact hits), and one printed in a Warhammer Armies book. Where this occurs, the rule printed in the Warhammers Armies book takes precedence."

Now impact hits always strike at the very begining of combat yada yada yada.
Grind attacks are resolve at the start of combat.

The only difference is semantics. So hiwpi from here on in is simultaneously in friendlies and tournaments argue the hell if neccessary for striking first or compromise at simultaneously


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And there is no faq either way from the official gw website

Both state at the begining therefor there is conflict kicking in army book conflict cause. Either way imma run it by our flgs tournie organiser who is an ex member of team canada


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And your interpreting old rules versus new so you have to open uup some interpretation on meaning. But since both happen at the start of combat. See above.

And would you claim impact overrides banners snd itemd that inflict hits at the stsrt of combat on anymodels in b2b etc ad well?

Nicely verified by our head honcho, as both happen at the start. Regardless of impact hits wording it happens at the start exactly the same as grind and therefor only fair way is simultaneous as advanced army book overrides brb advanced.

Right call also made by the world teams... At the end of the day both are at the start of combat making the conflict of advanced rules and page 11 explicitly dictatesarmy book overrides brb if yoy want to ignore raw quit now


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And if you want to RaW vs RaI then yh RaI impact hits first BUT RaW no simultaneous no other way to interpret.