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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/17 18:37:36
Subject: Sorcerer with Force weapon and power weapon
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Guard Heavy Weapon Crewman
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If I take a sorcerer in terminator armor and swap out the combi bolter for a force weapon, and he gets in combat, what happens? Which weapon does he use? Or do I just pick one and he gets +1A for having 2 CCW?
Thanks
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/17 18:38:30
Subject: Re:Sorcerer with Force weapon and power weapon
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The Conquerer
Waiting for my shill money from Spiral Arm Studios
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You pick which one to use, and you will get +1A with either of them.
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Self-proclaimed evil Cat-person. Dues Ex Felines
Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/17 18:58:27
Subject: Sorcerer with Force weapon and power weapon
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Guard Heavy Weapon Crewman
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Hmm.. okay thanks. So I guess then for multi wound models the better option would be the force weapon, and for everything else use the power weapon to cut through armor
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/17 19:01:38
Subject: Sorcerer with Force weapon and power weapon
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Judgemental Grey Knight Justicar
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force weapons are power weapons with extra rules, so power weapon is useless unless its a different type of power weapon
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I have half a mind to kill you, and the other half agrees |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/17 19:06:40
Subject: Re:Sorcerer with Force weapon and power weapon
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The Conquerer
Waiting for my shill money from Spiral Arm Studios
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Indeed.
You can have a Force Sword, which is a Power Sword with the Force special rule.
The same goes for Axes, Mauls, and Lances.
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Self-proclaimed evil Cat-person. Dues Ex Felines
Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.
MURICA!!! IN SPESS!!! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/17 19:11:04
Subject: Sorcerer with Force weapon and power weapon
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Tunneling Trygon
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Force Lance  ?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/17 19:12:42
Subject: Sorcerer with Force weapon and power weapon
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Guard Heavy Weapon Crewman
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Oh cool. So do you think it would be better to go for the force staff for the increased strength or the force sword for the increased AP?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/17 19:20:08
Subject: Sorcerer with Force weapon and power weapon
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Auspicious Daemonic Herald
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zhutch wrote:Oh cool. So do you think it would be better to go for the force staff for the increased strength or the force sword for the increased AP?
you want ap because you need to cause an unsaved wound for the Force rule to te be used
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/17 19:22:09
Subject: Sorcerer with Force weapon and power weapon
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Judgemental Grey Knight Justicar
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I usually take force axes for +1 str and -1 ap so its usually S5 AP2
sucks it makes you init 1 though
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/17 19:32:28
Subject: Sorcerer with Force weapon and power weapon
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Nasty Nob on Warbike with Klaw
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CrownAxe wrote:zhutch wrote:Oh cool. So do you think it would be better to go for the force staff for the increased strength or the force sword for the increased AP?
you want ap because you need to cause an unsaved wound for the Force rule to te be used
Depends what you're hitting.
Against a Monstrous Creature, a staff is much better.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/17 19:41:16
Subject: Sorcerer with Force weapon and power weapon
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Guard Heavy Weapon Crewman
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I usually play against orks
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/17 19:57:50
Subject: Sorcerer with Force weapon and power weapon
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Auspicious Daemonic Herald
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grendel083 wrote: CrownAxe wrote:zhutch wrote:Oh cool. So do you think it would be better to go for the force staff for the increased strength or the force sword for the increased AP?
you want ap because you need to cause an unsaved wound for the Force rule to te be used
Depends what you're hitting.
Against a Monstrous Creature, a staff is much better.
most monstrouc creatures also have a 3+ armor save so will just save against you ap4 wounds
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/18 00:00:24
Subject: Sorcerer with Force weapon and power weapon
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Captain of the Forlorn Hope
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BewareOfTom wrote:force weapons are power weapons with extra rules, so power weapon is useless unless its a different type of power weapon
This.
For instance you can have a Force Axe and a Power Sword, that way you can choose between S5 AP2 I1 attacks or S4 AP3 I4 attacks. (You could even make this a power maul for S6 AP4 I4 attacks).
Power Maul for hordes, Force Axe for Meganobs and non EW HQ units.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/18 00:15:50
Subject: Sorcerer with Force weapon and power weapon
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Aizuwakamatsu, Fukushima, Japan
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zhutch wrote:If I take a sorcerer in terminator armor and swap out the combi bolter for a force weapon, and he gets in combat, what happens? Which weapon does he use? Or do I just pick one and he gets +1A for having 2 CCW?
Thanks
You can't swap out the combi-bolter for a Force Weapon. You can swap it for a Power Weapon, but you'd be paying over 10 points for an extra attack (and some flexibility if you take a different kind of power weapon to your force weapon.)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/18 08:46:01
Subject: Re:Sorcerer with Force weapon and power weapon
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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The only tricky issue is what happens when you model a force spear/lance. Most players I know look at a spear and say its a force halberd/axe.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/18 08:57:05
Subject: Sorcerer with Force weapon and power weapon
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Stern Iron Priest with Thrall Bodyguard
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Staffs don't have blades, so I'd call a polearm a force axe.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/18 14:59:11
Subject: Sorcerer with Force weapon and power weapon
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Sure Space Wolves Land Raider Pilot
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If it was just a spear I could see it being just a staff. If it had a big blade on the side or a hook then it could be an axe.
What I really want is a Force Lightning Claw though
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/18 15:55:21
Subject: Re:Sorcerer with Force weapon and power weapon
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The Conquerer
Waiting for my shill money from Spiral Arm Studios
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If its a Spear, its a Force Lance.
If its a halberd or polearm, its a Force Axe.
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Self-proclaimed evil Cat-person. Dues Ex Felines
Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.
MURICA!!! IN SPESS!!! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/18 16:17:11
Subject: Sorcerer with Force weapon and power weapon
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Kelne
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Except there are no force lances, only staffs, axes and swords. So a force "spear" would either be a staff or an axe
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