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Like the title says just a shed load of av;

Mantleseer on bike.spear

5 DA. Serpent with scatter, cannon and hold fields
5 DA. Serpent with scatter, cannon and hold fields
5 DA. Serpent with scatter, cannon and holo fields
5 DA. Serpent with scatter, cannon and hold fields
3 bikes. Cannon
3 bikes. Cannon


3 vypers. Scatters and cannon
3 vypers. Scatters and cannon
2 vypers. Scatters and cannon

Fireprism. Holofields
Fireprism. Holofields
Fireprism. Holofields

Late night math done off top of my head but think thats 2002 points....

Not very imaginative but was going for alot of vehicles rather than tact

Just a thought but would a squadron of vypers with lances not scatters and cannons be better (would allow 2 extra bikes)

You lack a lot of AV killing power, the three prisms believe it or not won't kill tanks every turn therefor i would say a unit of three vipers with just lances would work well.

Drop the cannons from the bikes (they are late game contesting and don't need them) with the points you save from the cannons and the weapon change on the unit of x3 vipers you can buy another viper for you x2 unit to boost it to a x3 unit
with scatters and cannon.


Your biggest problem with this list will be fighting massed IG with space marine allies behind a defence line, because if yo shoot your shields to ignore cover they will pen you very fast, so you may want to drop 1 prism to a night spinner for a long range ignore cover template.

Other then that this is a normal spam list with a take all comers attitude good luck.

Try this instead.

Farseer.
20 guardians with 2 lances, with wave serpent (yes you can do it, I don't know why they allow it) holo, scat, shuri.

5 x 5 avengers in wave serpents with holo, scat, shuri.

2 wraithknights.

total: 1995.

If you want to get really janky, drop the holos and shuriken cannons off the tanks (I find the cannons wasteful anyway as moving 12" is almost always better). and you have an spare 150pts. Which you can use for vypers or whatever.

The seer goes with the guardian and basically makes a solid mobile anti tank blob that holds objectives. With the right powers the knights or the guardians can reroll all their hits and get some fun abilities like invisibility, 2+ cover save on a knight in area terrain anyone?

warren0110 wrote:
Like the title says just a shed load of av;

Mantleseer on bike.spear

5 DA. Serpent with scatter, cannon and hold fields
5 DA. Serpent with scatter, cannon and hold fields
5 DA. Serpent with scatter, cannon and holo fields
5 DA. Serpent with scatter, cannon and hold fields
3 bikes. Cannon
3 bikes. Cannon


3 vypers. Scatters and cannon
3 vypers. Scatters and cannon
2 vypers. Scatters and cannon

Fireprism. Holofields
Fireprism. Holofields
Fireprism. Holofields

Late night math done off top of my head but think thats 2002 points....

Not very imaginative but was going for alot of vehicles rather than tact

if you want to use it in a tourney setting, drop the spear so your under the 2k

I'd say drop both the bikes and take a few war walkers rather than 3 prisms.

I don't wanna drop all prisms but could drop one of them, a bike squad and the cannon off the other bikes for 3 scatter laser walkers and that should be enough to take me under 2k plus gain 24 str6 shots (not to mention it would give my farseer something to guide)

Prisms are good for anti marine save duty as well so they are defo useful. Dropping 1 shouldn't affect things too much.

Just used this list vs new marines;

Mantleseer with spear

4x 5 DA squads. Serpents with scatter cannon and holos
5 vypers with scatters and cannons
3 vypers with bright lance
2x prisms
3 walkers with scatters
3 man bike squad

Vs

Iron hands
Chapter master
Motf
2x techmarines
2 x 5 scouts in storms
2 iron clads
2 storm ravens
Cent devs with gravs in crusader

He quit on turn three after I got stw and fb by blowing up raider and killing his CM.

List did good but vs more than 1 raider I would have said many swear words

Considering you are playing 2k have you thought of using Double Force Org?

You could do...

2x Autarchs on Jetbikes with Laser Lances
4x Dire Avengers (x5) in Wave Serpents with Scatter Laser & Shuriken Cannons
3x Shining Spear with Exarch
2x Fire Prisms with Shuriken Cannon
2x Nightspinners with Shuriken Cannon
6x War Walkers with Brightlances and Scatter Lasers

Tbh after watching the list tear through what it did im now thinking of dropping the bikes and the 2 man vyper squad for adl with quad and a 5 man da unit with ex because I shot......46 str 6 shots at a storm raven to only do 2 hp worth of damage

Crimson Hunters?

Prob with CH is av10...yes it packs a punch but can get shot down easily whereas adl with quad can get the first shot in

and it only has a 1/2 chance of killing the entended fleir. if you go first, your hunter will come in first, then theres will and killl yours. if you go second, theres will come in fist and then youll kill it.
i use my serpents as anti air. works for me

warren0110 wrote:
Prob with CH is av10...yes it packs a punch but can get shot down easily whereas adl with quad can get the first shot in

1 or 2 wave serpents deals with the quad gun. Most people don't realize is you can target that sucker out.

hes saying quad gun for anti air, not quad gun will take it down. (which it will if it shoots)