insaniak wrote:
Quixote wrote:
Just picked up Zack Snyder's R-Rated
Justice League. About an hour in, and it's amazing how much better it is that the dumpster fire that was released by Joss Wedon. Wonder why Joss chopped out Green Lantern, Zeus, Aries, and Darksied?
Keep in mind a lot of what wound up in the final Snyder cut wasn't actually in the original cut, as the movie wasn't finished when Whedon took over. Snyder had to add a whole bunch of stuff in to get his version finished.
I would honestly struggle to pick which version of the JL movie I like more... Whedon's is an inconsistent frankenstein of a movie, and leans heavily into my least favourite aspect of the Justice League as a group - Superman is the only one who actually needs to be there. Snyder's does a better job of making everybody relevant, but is overly long and takes itself way too seriously. Neither wind up on the list of movies I feel a need to rewatch any time soon.
Whedon didn't cut that stuff. The Snyder Cut got millions in additional funding (and time) to add massive VFX segments and shoot additional footage. It's definitely not the movie we would have gotten at the time.
Whedon's version is just a result of executive demands. My favorite thing in it is honestly just that in the opening credits Whedon's name hangs ominously above a homeless man's sign that reads "I Tried".
WB had traditionally been a very "hands off" studio until they failed to successfully launch an MCU success story when they tried to force something that wasn't working to follow a formula it wasn't equipped for. Like their solution for their oval shaped car tires was to put it on railroad tracks.
I'd actually love to see an actual theatrical cut from Snyder at some point. The one we got is a huge improvement, but it also has some scenes that are notably weaker because he included EVERYTHING. The one that always gets me is when Wonder Woman blocks the bullets, there's an extra shot before seeing the guy change his targets to the hostages that lets you see she's like 3 inches away from him. Falling back to do the deflection scene feels ridiciously when you establish something like that.
Ultimately its a LOT better, but it also doesn't exactly work either. At the very least I don't think it would have won over audiences put off by BvS, particularly as it seems plans were to go even bleaker in the films that would have followed.