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Ambitious Space Wolves Initiate




USA

Part of an Escalation League at my local GW shop. So far, I've been half and half with my wins and losses. Our top player is an Ork green tide and the next player I'm squaring off also plays Ork but has an IG attachment with a Leman Russ.

Here is my set up

Rune Priest-Living Lightning and Divination
TAC
Chooser
Master of Runes
130 pts

GHX10
MoW
Wolf Standard
MM
PG
Rhino
220 pts

GHX10
MoW
Wolf Standard
MM
PG
Rhino
220 pts

GHX10
MoW
Wolf Standard
MM
PG
Drop Pod
220 pts

Vindicator 115pts

Long Fangs X6
ML X5
140

My overall plan is the Rune Priest hangs with the LF in the back while blessing them and letting loose with the LL. My two GH's in the Rhinos move with the Vindicator while covering it. The GH pack in the drop pod drop in the opponents deployment zone to take care of any heavy support and serve as a distraction.

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Ferocious Blood Claw






RP with LF is a very common strategy and highly effective in my practices, however you can't take one Codex power and one divination power it is an all or nothing deal.

That being said Master of Runes is almost useless on Div RP unless you get Perfect Timing (gives ignores cover) or 4+ invul power.

Your GH squads are wrong slightly as you cannot take MM you would however get a second Plasma Gun for free.

Playing with just one pod in your opponents will serve as a fleeting distraction and buy one maybe two rounds of shooting being tied up, against most armies a single squad will be melted in the shooting phase after it lands (i have seen it happen)

My suggestion is ditch the pod on the GH squad and slog them to an objective that is in your zone. Also drop master of runes and that gives you the spare points for an ADL with an Icarus LC that your RP can man with the LFs. The ADL will also guarantee you a turn 1 full bs firing of your LFs (if something is in range)

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Ambitious Space Wolves Initiate




USA

Thanks, I meant melta guns when I typed MM, sorry, I"m doing this at work.

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Lurking Gaunt



New York

The single best thing I've ever heard in my Warhammer experiences since being introduced to Rhinos and Troops is using the Rhino as a LoS blocking model for the troops inside it.

Carefully remember this tactic, against IG and Orks I can't tell you more than enough about how well it will do.

Start turn with troops in Rhino

Beginning Movement: Disembark Troops in Rhino to table.
Movement: Move Troops & Rhino 6" alongside each other.

Shooting: Shoot like hell with your GH. Blow things up!

Then!

During the same Shooting phase, right after you shoot with your troops: Move the Rhino Flat Out 6" between the troops that just shot and block LoS from a potentially threatening unit.

Use the Rhino not only as an AV11 transport, but also as an AV11 moving wall. It's going to be a very powerful strategy against Horde armies.

Also - Vindicator Pie Plates and ML Small Blasts are going to be a BLAST against all those Orky and IG hordey models. SO MANY BIG HITS! Just don't get too tempted by the idea of hurting his troop choices when pointing the big weapons at a buffing HQ might help more. For instance - if your Ork player has a Kustom Force Field, all his Orks will have cover saves in open field. You remove the KFF, you remove a huge part of their effectiveness.

I'd also be wary of that lone Drop Pod. In that situation, with one Drop Pod, you're going to end up feeding your first unit to your opponent. Yes, it will provide a halfway decent distraction and allow you to move your Rhino's more, but if you deploy well and you utilize your movement properly, you're not going to have to worry about needing a distraction.
   
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Ambitious Space Wolves Initiate




USA

I know the Pod Unit is basically a suicide squad but it has saved the rest of my army from getting torn to shreds. As for the move flat out, can a Rhino still do that? I'm not sure if that is a legal move but if it is, I useful strategy.

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Ferocious Blood Claw






You have to do it very specifically.

If you move and then disembark the units the tank can no longer move. For that reason you disembark before any movement (even pivoting on the spot) happens and then the tank can move as normal.

Also since you are gonna be facing abit of a horde army throwing away 220pts (just under 25% of your army) as a distraction can cost you the game as often as it gets you the win. since your know you are going up against some armor you could put double meltagun in the pod and use it to blow up the tank so it gets to be more than just a sacrifice.

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Ambitious Space Wolves Initiate




USA

Okay, here is a revision. I'm dropping the Rune Master for an Aegis Defense Line and replacing the Drop Pod Team with a Thunderwolf Cavalry

RP-Dvination, LL
Terminator
Chooser -130

Long Fangs X 6
MLX5
Aegis Defense Line-190

GH X10
MoW
Wulf Standard
Plasma X2
Rhino-220

GH X10
MoW
Wulf Standard
Plasma X2
Rhino-220

Vindicator 115

Thunderwolf Cavalry X3
Thunder Hammer
Storm Shield
210

Puts it at 1085. So would this work and I know I can fill the last 15 points with something.

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Made in us
Ferocious Blood Claw






How do you plan on using the TWC? Based on the points you have 3 of them.
   
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Ambitious Space Wolves Initiate




USA

Plan is one GH pack will support/cover the Vindicator and one with the TWC. The GH's will take place and shoot up approaching Orks and the TWC moves in to clean up.

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Slippery Scout Biker




Your rune priest cannot have both living lightning and divination, you replace ALL his codex powers for 2 rolls from the BRB, or you don't. This is per the FAQ.

A single TWC squad is only going to get shot off the table before they do anything while being a huge point sink. Every time I tried to run a single squad, it was shot up. It's a very expensive unit to only have 3+ saves, so you take then en mass to give them multiple targets to shoot at and hope at least some of them make it to combat, or you don't take them at all.

You could spend those extra points on a drop pod with wolf guard armed with meltas in it, or more GHs, those 3 models are 10 GHs fully armed with a rhino.
   
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Auspicious Skink Shaman






What I would do if you didn't want to roll with the cavalry:

Add a squad of 5 GH + Rhino + additional RP. Give him Jaws and Murderous hurricane. Jaws for the Riptide or Necron lord you will face and Murderous hurricane for the hordes. Use the squad to sit on objectives and/ or support your other Rhino squads in midfield

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Ambitious Space Wolves Initiate




USA

From the advice that's been given and looking up some other tactics (from Frontline Gaming), I'm going to stick with the Long Fang, GH/Rhino X3 and Vindicator set up

Plan is two Grey Hunters support the Vindicator, while the third takes any objectives. RP sits back with the LFs and flings lightining and hurricane.

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Ambitious Space Wolves Initiate




USA

Ran into a bit of a snag. Other player (the Ork player) said that I can't do the tank cover cause the I'm no longer in the movement phase. I didn't want to bog the game down so I conceded. I only ended up getting tabled. I have yet to look it up in the main book. So How should I approach this?

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Made in ca
Fresh-Faced New User




Pg. 72 of the main rule book "A vehicle can elect to move Flat Out instead of firing in the Shooting phase, immediately moving up to 6" " Next time you try and do it, make sure to have your rule book handy
   
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Battlewagon Driver with Charged Engine





Philadelphia

If you have a head judge/game master for the escalation league I would lodge a complaint about this to him. Yes, it's too late, yes you are complicit because you didn't know the rule either, but at least he'll know there's a player who's possibly cheating intentionally. Now, if you're all new to the game or something, disregard, but it's a shame when people insist on something that is in fact wrong because it's to their advantage and they know their opponent is unfamiliar.

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