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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/23 07:22:37
Subject: Can you help me build a few khador lists with these models?
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Kovnik
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I feel like I am losing with a lot of the lists I write so is it ok to ask for help with a TAC list for my Khador? Casters: p and e Sorscha p and e Irusk The old Witch Warjacks: Destroyer x2 Juggernaut Marauder Decimator Demolisher Devastator Spriggan Behemoth Units: Winter guard Infantry (10) -Winter guard officer and standar -Winter guard rocketeers (3) Winter guard Infantry (10) Winter guard mortar crew x2 Greylords Ternion (3) Man-o-war Shocktroopers (5) Widow Makers (4) Solos: Kovnik Joe War Dog Manhunter x2 Koldun Lord Mercenaries: Kell Bailoch Gorman Di Wulfe Eiryss 2 Reinholdt Gobber Speculator Alexia and Risen Ayana and Holt
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2013/11/24 03:50:49
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/23 11:26:53
Subject: Can you help me build a few khador lists with these models?
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Kovnik
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What point limits do you play regularly?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/23 13:23:14
Subject: Re:Can you help me build a few khador lists with these models?
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Prospector with Steamdrill
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Sometime "Random Mode" is quite good too... especially with so many possibility.
I found that a little bit lazy to ask on a forum for a competitive list with so little information about the context of the play. How many points, your rival general army or warcaster, if this is for a tournament or a casual game etc, etc etc... At this point, write on a piece of paper all your units and pick them randomly, you could be suprise of the result! Can you show us a little bit more about your previous "lists" attempt and the result of it. I feel like you just throw us a list and you ask us to do the job for you.
You have to know that The Old Witch have a complete different game play than if you were playing Irusk or Sorcha. Do you expect to get more figurines in the futur or you stick to what you have. Do you like jack's, or you prefer an infantry style game play, etc. etc.
So far, I conclude there is not enought information about the context of the play to offer a real competitive army list base on what you like. There is no real success list out of the box instantly that work all the time for every kind of game. It's all about creating a "synergy" between your troops and warcaster. It is all about buff and debuff, about power and bonus, managing spells and feat. While you can have a powerful control objective army, your rival can have a solid "caster killer" army and can win the game by simply killing your warcaster. You have to balance everything at some point.
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Grrr.... Cheese make me fart... |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/23 16:18:07
Subject: Can you help me build a few khador lists with these models?
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Dakka Veteran
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You have a really solid core of models. pIrusk, winterguards, spriggan, mortars, widowmakers, manhunters all form a really solid core of a list. Unfortunately, you have two max squads of winterguard which is kind of useless. Heres a good start to a good list:
pIrusk
-Spriggan
Max winter gaurd infantry
-3 Rocketeers
-Unit attachment
Kovnik Joe
Winterguard mortar
Widowmakers
Gorman Di Wolfe
This comes out to 26 points and forms a good solid core for an army. you could drop one of the rocketeers and have a good 25 point army, or add the shocktrooper squad and have a 35 point army.
There is not much use for two max winter guard units, maybe you could sell one and use the $ to pickup an Iron Fang pikemen unit. They would be a better option IMHO than the shocktroopers.
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71 pts khador - 6 war casters
41 pts merc highborn - 3 warcasters |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/23 23:35:10
Subject: Can you help me build a few khador lists with these models?
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Drakhun
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Looks like you have a really solid start to your Khador.
Pick up Behemoth, IFP, the IFK and maybe Wintergaurd Rifleman and you will be set.
Oh and grab a few if not all of the Vlads cuz they are just insane fun.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/24 03:51:13
Subject: Can you help me build a few khador lists with these models?
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Kovnik
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Oh I am sorry I do have a behemoth and I usually run either 35pt or 50pt kill the caster or steamroller 2013.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/02 02:42:51
Subject: Can you help me build a few khador lists with these models?
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Thinking of Joining a Davinite Loge
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I look forward to having an arsenal like yours.
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There is no Zuul, there is only war!
30k Death Guard W:8 L:5: D:1
Mechanicum W:4 L:2 D:1
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/02 03:29:56
Subject: Can you help me build a few khador lists with these models?
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Kovnik
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Are there any other 50 point lists that I could pull off comfortably or should I just stick to 35 points.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/02 03:50:57
Subject: Re:Can you help me build a few khador lists with these models?
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Drakhun
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This could be fun to play.
The only reason the Juggernaut is there is to fill in some points. You could use him as a late game piece or a sacrifice to get people to commit to a zone.
Kommandant Irusk (*6pts)
* Juggernaut (7pts)
* Spriggan (10pts)
* War dog (1pts)
Alexia Ciannor & the Risen (Alexia and 9 Risen Grunts) (5pts)
Greylord Ternion (Leader and 2 Grunts) (4pts)
Lady Aiyana & Master Holt (4pts)
Widowmakers (Leader and 3 Grunts) (4pts)
Winter Guard Infantry (Leader and 9 Grunts) (6pts)
* Winter Guard Infantry Officer & Standard (2pts)
* 3 Winter Guard Infantry Rocketeers (3pts)
Winter Guard Mortar Crew (Leader and Grunt) (3pts)
Gorman di Wulfe, Rogue Alchemist (2pts)
Kell Bailoch (2pts)
Kovnik Jozef Grigorovich (2pts)
Reinholdt, Gobber Speculator (1pts)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/03 02:02:17
Subject: Can you help me build a few khador lists with these models?
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Kovnik
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Your arsenal is really good, you might just roll random for a unit and do well with it.
Warmachine has a steep learning curve, you don´t only have to know your rules&stats by heart, you should know about the other factions too. I do that regularly by getting curb stomped by surprise moves I did not consider because I did´t know about them. Per aspera ad astra - net lists won´t net you wins.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/03 15:42:56
Subject: Can you help me build a few khador lists with these models?
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Kovnik
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While that is true having a list that I can run that will have a good amount of synergy is always nice.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/04 00:33:21
Subject: Re:Can you help me build a few khador lists with these models?
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Prospector with Steamdrill
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My best shot is Spriggan with Irusk... costy but priceless when come to look at the face of my opponent when the Spriggan charge!
Don't forget the +2 on charge with his Lance and the spell of Irusk that give +2 Speed, MAT and Def. Irusk feat boost even more!
I use to mix it with a bunch of Assault Kommandos, their gas grenade launcher is very effective to debuff ennemy DEF , especially to shoot before the Spriggan charge.
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Grrr.... Cheese make me fart... |
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