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So here's my question. If I make a Grey Knight main force org and ally in Coteaz from the Inqusition list, do my henchmen from the Grey Knight book count as scoring?

Alternatively, if I have an IG list with GK allies lead by Coteaz, then an Inquisition allied detatchment as well are all the henchmen considered scoring?
   
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The Inquisition rule is explicit: "same detachment" warbands are scoring
   
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Correct me if I'm wrong, since I don't have a copy in front of me, but doesn't Coteaz's rule in Codex: Inquisition say that all henchmen bands in the "army" are considered scoring?

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Wrong I'm afraid. Hentchmen bands in the same Detachment, not army.

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 alienvalentine wrote:
Correct me if I'm wrong, since I don't have a copy in front of me, but doesn't Coteaz's rule in Codex: Inquisition say that all henchmen bands in the "army" are considered scoring?


Coteaz's rule in C:GK says that all Warbands in the "army" are "Troops," not scoring.

There's been some chatter about what taking GK Coteaz does to C:Inquisition Warbands, since there's no Troops selection in C:I.
Because the RAW seems to cause problems in this case, HIWPI Coteaz only affects Warbands in his detachment, as per the newer rule in C:I, regardless of whether he's Grey Knights Coteaz or Inquisition Coteaz.


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1st, if we assume that an 'Inquisitorial Henchmen Warband' refers to both units of the same name from either codex, and we also assume "Inquisitors" are any model with that title then we have some strange interactions between codex Grey Knight and Codex Inquisition.

If your primary detachment if from codex Inquisition then all of your IHW units are scoring. That means your units in your primary detachment, also the units in an inquisitorial detachment, and even units in an allied grey knights detachment. You do not need to take any version of Coteaz.

If your primary detachment is from codex Grey knights then none of your IHW units are scoring.
  • If you have the grey knight version of Coteaz he will require you to have taken all your IHW in all detchments as troops and that will make them scoring. You can't do this in an inquisitorial detachment so don't take the grey knight version Coteaz if you plan to have an inquisitorial detachment.
  • If you have the Inquisition version of Coteaz he will only effect the IHW units in his detachment.
  • You are not able to run both version of Coteaz for the same reasons IHW units can be effected across codices. If you want your GK IHW units to be scoring don't take an Inq detachment lead by the Inq version Coteaz.


  • If you are looking to maximize the number of IHW in an army you should run a Primary detachment from codex Inquisition with 2 inquisitors and 3 warbands, then an inquisitional detachment that also has 2 inquisitors and 3 warbands and finally include an allied detachment of grey knights with 1 inquisitor, and 1 strike unit for troops. Because you now have 5 inquisitors in your army you can take 5 IHW from codex grey knights and as long as you don't have coteaz to make them troops they will not use any FOC slots. Becouse of the rule in codex inquisition all 11 warbands will be scoring and the strike unit will also be scoring because its troops.

    Until they errata codices or make it clear that rules that call out a unit by name or by title only effect the units in the detachment, or at the very least codex, as the model/unit with that rule

    Personally, I think they will errata the codices only if people actually try and take advantage of this.

    Of course this all hinges on the idea that things can effect each other across codices because they have the same name or title. If you and your opponent agree otherwise none of this matters and you and your opponent should probobly agree one way or the other before you build your list. Its not cool to pull this kind of iffy cheese on some one.
       
     
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