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As per title, can he or not? I assume that deep strike happens at the start of the turn. And blessing can be casted at the start of the movement, can he or not cast them?

No, because unit arriving from reserves cannot use special rules and abilities that must be used at the start of the turn. (pg 125, second paragraph)
And blessings must be cast on start of the turn.

Thanks a lot Luide!

It also say you can't use psychic powers that must be done at the start of the turn on the turn the psyker arrive from reserves on pg67

What you can do is having another unit cast a blessing on the arriving unit, as reserves and blessing/maledictions happens at the same time

Pg. 7 of the rulebook FAQ makes it clear.

Blessings and reserves all happen at the same time, the player whos turn it is decides if blessings happen first or the reserves.

So luide is wrong. Yes you can chose to bring in your reserves then bless them no problem.

 Masos wrote:
Pg. 7 of the rulebook FAQ makes it clear.

Blessings and reserves all happen at the same time, the player whos turn it is decides if blessings happen first or the reserves.

So luide is wrong. Yes you can chose to bring in your reserves then bless them no problem.

The FAQ you are referring to deals with a psyker already on the table casting a 'start of turn' power on a unit coming in from reserve. It does not change the rule that clearly states that a unit that comes in from reserve can not cast a 'start of turn' power.

 Ghaz wrote:

 Masos wrote:
Pg. 7 of the rulebook FAQ makes it clear.

So luide is wrong. Yes you can chose to bring in your reserves then bless them no problem.

The FAQ you are referring to deals with a psyker already on the table casting a 'start of turn' power on a unit coming in from reserve. It does not change the rule that clearly states that a unit that comes in from reserve can not cast a 'start of turn' power.

Im almost 100% that you are wrong. The FAQ refers to the manifest of blessings. Not about a psyker already on the table. Ill read it again.

I can choose to have my psyker come in from reserves and still cast blessings. Because reserves and blessing happen at the same time.

No. The FAQ does cover psykers already on the table casting a psychic power on a unit coming in from reserve. The main rulebook already covers psykers coming in from reserve as already noted in this thread.

 Masos wrote:


Im almost 100% that you are wrong. The FAQ refers to the manifest of blessings. Not about a psyker already on the table. Id read it again.

I can choose to have my psyker come in from reserves and still cast blessings. Because reserves and blessing happen at the same time.

I hope your "100%" is actually more like "10%," because the BRB is VERY clear on this:

BRB 67 wrote:
On a turn that a psyker arrives from reserve (see page 124) he cannot attempt to manifest any pyschic powers that must be manifested at the start of the Movement phase [eg. Blessings/Maledictions]

And this rule was already quoted in this thread.

Here's your sign.

Pg. 7 of official GW FAQ

Q: Blessings are manifested ‘at the start of the Psyker’s Movement
phase’ – does this mean they happen simultaneously with Reserves
rolls, Outflanking rolls etc and if so which is resolved first? (p68)
A: They do occur simultaneously – as such, the player whose
turn it is decides in what order these things occur as per
page 9 of the Warhammer 40,000 rulebook.

Does that clear this little misunderstanding up??

 Masos wrote:
Here's your sign.

Pg. 7 of official GW FAQ

Q: Blessings are manifested ‘at the start of the Psyker’s Movement
phase’ – does this mean they happen simultaneously with Reserves
rolls, Outflanking rolls etc and if so which is resolved first? (p68)
A: They do occur simultaneously – as such, the player whose
turn it is decides in what order these things occur as per
page 9 of the Warhammer 40,000 rulebook.

Does that clear this little misunderstanding up??

That has nothing to so with a psyker being able to come on the board and cast - all it solves is a timing issue for payers already on the board.
Unfortunately, in addition to the timing issue, there is a denial on page 67 from casting any blessings/Maledictions the turn you arrive from Reserves.

"Here's your sign." Indeed.

 Masos wrote:
Here's your sign.

Pg. 7 of official GW FAQ

Q: Blessings are manifested ‘at the start of the Psyker’s Movement
phase’ – does this mean they happen simultaneously with Reserves
rolls, Outflanking rolls etc and if so which is resolved first? (p68)
A: They do occur simultaneously – as such, the player whose
turn it is decides in what order these things occur as per
page 9 of the Warhammer 40,000 rulebook.

Does that clear this little misunderstanding up??

If you're still claiming that a Psyker can start the turn in reserves, and then cast a blessing/malediction...then no, this doesn't clear up anything.

Think of it this way: For the psyker ON the table, he can cast at the same time reserves arrive, since he hasn't done anything yet that turn. For the psyker in reserve, he has already done something at the beginning of the turn--namely, ARRIVE.
The BRB and FAQ clarify this nicely.

If you're retracting your earlier statement, to be in accordance with the clear RAW...then this FAQ still has nothing to do with that.

 Masos wrote:
Here's your sign.

Pg. 7 of official GW FAQ

Q: Blessings are manifested ‘at the start of the Psyker’s Movement
phase’ – does this mean they happen simultaneously with Reserves
rolls, Outflanking rolls etc and if so which is resolved first? (p68)
A: They do occur simultaneously – as such, the player whose
turn it is decides in what order these things occur as per
page 9 of the Warhammer 40,000 rulebook.

Does that clear this little misunderstanding up??

Nothing in that FAQ mentions psykers coming in from reserves, just that psy powers and reserves are done at the same time.

The reason psykers can't cast powers from reserves wasn't because of reserves being also at the same time (which is what the faq is referring to), its because the BRB flat out says they can't on PG67 (which the faq makes no reference to)

So no, psykers coming from reserves still can't use blessing and maledictions when coming in from reserves.

After reading the above posts plus reading the BRB and FAQ I think that people are right here. FAQ is reffering to another circumstance of reserves and psychic powers than if a psyker who arrives through reserves could or could not cast powers that are being cast at the start of the movement phase. That is already solved through the rulebook. The later FAQ simply corrects the time restrictions depending the reserves and other psykers already "on board".
That being said I think this thread is done.

This is what the FAQ is for: Psykers who have powers that manipulate reserves, such as scrier's gaze.

As the casting and the reserves happen simo, the player can choose in what order to do them. So he can cast Scrier's Gaze and use that to influence later reserve rolls.

The FAQ does not overule the psyker coming in from reserves.

Oh ma gerd.

That FAQ simply puts to bed when you manifest psychic power or when you roll for reserves. READ IT CLEARLY.

THERE was some confusion about rolling for who comes in then rolling for casting. Now it has a clear cut rule, so like if ya wanna cast scryers gaze you can before ROLLING for reserves. Rolling and starting the moves is two different things.

You cannot cast blessings with a psyker who comes from reserves, nor can you cast blessings on a unit that has arrived from reserves from a psyker already on the board since when you start moving units the casting phase is done....

That FAQ though poorly worded does not give you permission to break the game .

Lungpickle wrote:
... nor can you cast blessings on a unit that has arrived from reserves from a psyker already on the board since when you start moving units the casting phase is done....

Not true. Reserves arrive and move onto the board before you can move any other units, therefore their movement occurs at the start of the Movement phase/turn. It is perfectly legal to cast a blessing on said units.

 Ghaz wrote:

Lungpickle wrote:
... nor can you cast blessings on a unit that has arrived from reserves from a psyker already on the board since when you start moving units the casting phase is done....

Reserves arrive and move onto the board before you can move any other units, therefore their movement occurs at the start of the Movement phase/turn.

Argument is grossly insufficient to prove assertion. Moving reserves is distinctly after rolling for reserves, which is defined as the start of the turn, so therefore is no longer the start. My argument is at least as correct as yours. Honestly, it's not really well-defined. But given that the relevant FAQ cites rolling for reserves (as opposed to resolving them) and the fact that moving units coming in from reserve is part of standard mid-movement phase rules, I find that very few people accept the argument that it's still the "start".

Yes it is obvious reserves come on at the end of the turn.

Pyrian wrote:

 Ghaz wrote:

Lungpickle wrote:
... nor can you cast blessings on a unit that has arrived from reserves from a psyker already on the board since when you start moving units the casting phase is done....

Reserves arrive and move onto the board before you can move any other units, therefore their movement occurs at the start of the Movement phase/turn.

Argument is grossly insufficient to prove assertion. Moving reserves is distinctly after rolling for reserves, which is defined as the start of the turn, so therefore is no longer the start. My argument is at least as correct as yours. Honestly, it's not really well-defined. But given that the relevant FAQ cites rolling for reserves (as opposed to resolving them) and the fact that moving units coming in from reserve is part of standard mid-movement phase rules, I find that very few people accept the argument that it's still the "start".

Should I point out that per the FAQ, psychic powers are done at the same time as outflank rolls which are done when the unit moves on?

From page 124 of the Warhammer 40K 6th edition rulebook (emphasis mine):

When Reserves arrive, the player picks any one of the units arriving and deploys it, moving it onto the table as described below. Then he picks another unit and deploys it, and so on until all arriving units are on the table. The player can then proceed to move his other units as normal.

This clearly places units that are arriving from Reserve and their movement in arriving as occuring at the start of the Movement phase/turn.

Well I believe GOI is an exception. If one of a unit of three psykers casts GOI, the other two could then use start of turn psychic powers. While GOI does cause them to DS it does not place them in reserve and they are on the battlefield at the start of the turn. So in such a case another psyker in the unit could then bless himself or his unit... even with another GOI...

it was my understanding that it was no with the example, I saw being discusses was mephiston because people wanted to deep strike him since he could turn himself into jump infantry.
Or something of that sort. I have been doing it with my guard/inquisitors at the proper time and if I forgot... well, I just didn't get to use it that turn.

We'll moving on from reserves count as movement. So the movement has started. They are just forced to move first as per the rules.

Lungpickle wrote:
We'll moving on from reserves count as movement. So the movement has started. They are just forced to move first as per the rules.

Since the rules for the Movement phase doesn't cover moving on from reserve, all of your reserves are moving at the start of the Movement phase/turn.

Lungpickle wrote:
We'll moving on from reserves count as movement. So the movement has started. They are just forced to move first as per the rules.

This view ignores the fact that Outflank rolls are made when moving a unit on the board, and are simultaneous with casting blessings and Reserve rolls.

No, arrival from Reserve happens prior to the rest of your units moving.