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Hi!
I'm starting a BA army. Actually I have:
·10 Tactical 2013 Squad marines
·10 Assault marines
·5 scouts with sniper and coat
Thinking on 6th edition , must i buy a 2013 Space Marine Strikeforce or two BA starter kits? What will be better investment?



Thx in advance

Concentrate more on the BA battleforce. It has more useful things for you. Also, be wary of assaulting in 6th edition. Apart from termies, we don't really have anything for it.

 Warzoner wrote:
Concentrate more on the BA battleforce. It has more useful things for you. Also, be wary of assaulting in 6th edition. Apart from termies, we don't really have anything for it.

I have read something about it. If Assaulting is very difficult, BA have lost their 'advantatge'. And what about these termies? How they have sense? Assigned on a land raider or in a capsule?

You can assault if you do it en-mass. You will do well against many lists, just not ultra competative ones. Units which will do reasonably well for you in most lists include: priests, assault squads, ravens, th/ss termis (IF you can find the points for a transport), drop pod melta sternies, drop pod furioso, death co dread with talons assaulting from a raven (but means you need to take death co... and raven), librarians (compared to our hq not other meq librarians).
Units which are more overcosted than most include: captains, chaplains, sanguinary guard, tacticals, scouts, death company with jump packs, whirlwinds (paying for fast on a whirlwind... why???), shooty termis, vanguard. Dont get me wrong - I still use many of these units, it is just that they are even more overcosted than the rest.
Those units not mentioned work well or not so well depending on your list, for example, if you go for av13 saturation, vindis and baals are great, if not, they are not so good.
Named character wise, stayvaway from the sanguinor, FAR too expensive! Dont use astorath unless you want a fluffy death co army for the same reason. Dante is overcosted but allows for both dante bomb and sang guard as troops so is fun to play. Take mephiston now and again, not always, otherwise your opponents will have a built in counter for him (easy to do) and he will no longer wreck face. Seth is meh. Corbulo however is the boss! Excellent character to tank wounds, and his re-roll can be a game changer, its just a pity such an awsome character cant take a jp since he struggles to fit into many lists without one.

You can't put Terminators in a drop pod/capsule, running them in a Land Raider is a good idea. I'd only do the assault terminators though honestly, with thunder hammer and storm shield.

Scouts are good for holding objectives, I'd put a missile launcher on them too.

Otherwise, I'd go for the BA battle force. Try the death company as shooty and as close combat before deciding how to build them though, especially since with jump packs they get very costly in points. I'd also look at Baal predators and Furioso Dreadnoughts.

Poly Ranger has summed it up very well actually.

Poly Ranger wrote:
You can assault if you do it en-mass. You will do well against many lists, just not ultra competative ones. Units which will do reasonably well for you in most lists include: priests, assault squads, ravens, th/ss termis (IF you can find the points for a transport), drop pod melta sternies, drop pod furioso, death co dread with talons assaulting from a raven (but means you need to take death co... and raven), librarians (compared to our hq not other meq librarians).
Units which are more overcosted than most include: captains, chaplains, sanguinary guard, tacticals, scouts, death company with jump packs, whirlwinds (paying for fast on a whirlwind... why???), shooty termis, vanguard. Dont get me wrong - I still use many of these units, it is just that they are even more overcosted than the rest.
Those units not mentioned work well or not so well depending on your list, for example, if you go for av13 saturation, vindis and baals are great, if not, they are not so good.
Named character wise, stayvaway from the sanguinor, FAR too expensive! Dont use astorath unless you want a fluffy death co army for the same reason. Dante is overcosted but allows for both dante bomb and sang guard as troops so is fun to play. Take mephiston now and again, not always, otherwise your opponents will have a built in counter for him (easy to do) and he will no longer wreck face. Seth is meh. Corbulo however is the boss! Excellent character to tank wounds, and his re-roll can be a game changer, its just a pity such an awsome character cant take a jp since he struggles to fit into many lists without one.

Oh my god! Great reply and better advice I take all your advice because they're so good and clear. Now I'm thinking what to do, but I love the en-mass assault. Why blood angels if not?
Focusing on assault squads, should I take it with jump packs? I like a list based on many assault squads and a "surprise" death co dread with talons assaulting from a raven.



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 troa wrote:
You can't put Terminators in a drop pod/capsule, running them in a Land Raider is a good idea. I'd only do the assault terminators though honestly, with thunder hammer and storm shield.

Scouts are good for holding objectives, I'd put a missile launcher on them too.

Otherwise, I'd go for the BA battle force. Try the death company as shooty and as close combat before deciding how to build them though, especially since with jump packs they get very costly in points. I'd also look at Baal predators and Furioso Dreadnoughts.

Poly Ranger has summed it up very well actually.

Thx for your advice. I'm now adding your and Polu ranger advice, and thinking what to do.