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ok, so I've gotten back into warmahordes (was playing menoth) and I have a few questions:

so I picked up a few models to get me started (heard some bad things about the battle box so avoided it) and I now have a unit of druids with an over seer, a wold warden and a warp wolf that can either be a stalker, feral or pure blood. I also picked up a morvahna (on foot) model which I'll be using as a conversion base for any warlock, mostly because I dislike all of circles warlock models and I would much prefer to make my own (she has a nice base model.....just a bad face, hands and sword).

the problem is, now that I have these....where do I go with them? what warcaster would you guys reccommend? I'm aiming for a 25pts army so I realise that I'll need to make one or two more purchases. I'd like to think I'm good for war beasts so I may just need another box of grunts.

the next question is what kind of tricks and cheese are there in a circle army? what units combo well and are there any good warcaster/lock assassins :?

thanks for any help

also, I'm sorry for spamming this board a little and I realise I should have made a post like this first

Which Morvhana I guess is the first question. Mounted or on foot (Epic or Prime)?

oh, on foot (I'll update the first post )

First up, welcome to the circle. Don't forget your complimentary goggles, and warpwolf plushie

Regarding what you have: pmorvahna is a good caster, but has serious natch up issues - she is extremely dependent on a handful if upkeep spells, so anyone with upkeep removal utterly ruins her day. Regarding using her as a proxy, bear in mind base size. Kromac is a medium base and epic goat lady is a large base model. You kent be able to pull it off with every warlock.

Druids, wold warden and warpwolves. Well, you can't go wrong with the warpwolf. All breeds are top class in my opinion. Druids are a utility unit however, and not a frontline unit. They're great for second line buffing and push/pull shenanigans but they will never make it as an offensive unit on their eon merits - it's simply not what they're about. Wolds are fine, but slow, and aside from the baldurs, you can't heal them, aside from the use of shifting stones. They're situational as well, in a lot of ways. They're great for geomancy, and Cassius, baldurs, and Krueger like them, but they won't find a use in every list.

Regarding where to go, as a hordes player you are kind of limited at 25pts as your need of beasts will hurt your ability to field lots of infantry. Morvahna likes infantry. A lot. Personally, at 25, I'd go with a gorax, two warpwolves, min blood trackers and kromac. Or ekaya. Depending on warcaster what you'll take will vary. What works for kromac won't be the same as what works for baldur. You'll have to be more specific in terms of what you're looking for if you want more detailed answers.

Regarding tricks and cheese, it depends on your warlocks. Kromac and Kaya are the alpha strikers from hell, and kromac does great non linear movement shenanigans with warpath. Moravian can keep regenerating dead grunts. Baldur teleports through forests. Stones help you teleport your beasts for more non linear threats. And that's just a start.

Buy an unit of Shifting Stones with UA (Stone Keeper).

well as it stands I'm either wanting to play kruger or morvahna :? though I'm not sure which kruger to go with (if at all)

I'm also looking for a CC unit though I'm having a hard time deciding. blood weavers look awesome but fragile, wolves seem pretty vanilla and blood trackers seem to suffer the same problem as weavers :?

Blood trackers are amazing. Get them and Nuala their UA, and you have a solid unit for just about any caster.
Blood weavers are neat, but rarely make it into my lists outside of pKrueger. Lightning tendrils helps them a lot, but they are not so exciting vs non-living models.

Were I you with what you have, I would turn your wolf into a stalker, and pick up a set of shifting stones. If you run pKruger you have a half decent 25 point list with Druids + UA, Stalker and Woldwarden, and a set of stones. You can handle infantry really well, and armor spam can be dealt with by druids just pushing one jack/beast back and reeling the other one in to be killed by the stalker, who then sprints away. The warden is a little suboptimal, but still decent for softening up a jack/beast for the stalker, and the geomancy of chain lightning can be good. Plus the 4" forest can come in really handy. Colossals are going to be a little bit of a pain, but they are not so tough that a wold warden and the stalker can't kill them in a round. I would, however, replace the warden with a feral when you get the chance. pKrugs can kill a MESS of infantry himself, so even at 50 I don't take a geomancer with him, but just build my list to crack armor.

Shifting stones are one of those units you probably want two of, and definitely one with the UA. Being able to place beasts in the back arcs of things behind lines etc is just fantastic. Remember ALWAYS that it is "within 8" " NOT "completely within". That means a heavy beast can threaten something ~10.5 inches away, and if it has reach 12.5". That's a good time.

Magnetize the warpwolf so you can use all 3. Then you can try them all out.

The Shifting stones are pretty standard in Circle lists.