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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/30 18:10:11
Subject: How are Gue'Vesa regaurded among the Tau? [Also non-fire castes of Gue'Vesa?]
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Fresh-Faced New User
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I was pondering doing an army of Gue'Vesa Tau, and a few fluff questions came into relevance: What is it like for humans that have joined the greater good? How much do the Tau treat them as second class citizens? Are they friendly or act like commanding officers? Do humans serve under other castes than the fire warriors, such as scientists under the Earth Caste? Are Tau people who enjoy fun? (Or anyone in 40k for that matter since no-one addresses that issue) javascript:emoticon('  ');
Keep in mind that these are not prisoners of war. They are men and women who willingly joined the Tau. I'm still debating weather or not they are or aren't imperial freedom fighters who joined the greater good because they needed help keeping a hold or want a better life for the people back home.
Thanks for your help, your time is much apreciated.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/01 17:41:08
Subject: How are Gue'Vesa regaurded among the Tau? [Also non-fire castes of Gue'Vesa?]
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Deadly Dark Eldar Warrior
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I would say there treated better if not the same as the kroot and if I remember they are allowed to continue to worship the Emperor so pretty good which means better than they are in the Imperium.
They serve under a tau like the kroot and other races with military units attached to tau Hunter cartas, as for the other caste I dont know but I wouldnt think so with the exception being diplomats to contact other humans.
Most humans are the offspring of humans who surrendered during Damocles crusade so they hold no loyalties to the Imperium.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/01 17:56:40
Subject: Re:How are Gue'Vesa regaurded among the Tau? [Also non-fire castes of Gue'Vesa?]
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Hellish Haemonculus
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I'd say about the same as the Indians who scouted for the Union army were regarded by non-military whites out on the frontier. That is to say - not treated as enemies, but held at arm's length. If you're one of the people who (like me) believes that the Ethereals engage not only in some kind of pheremonal control over the Tau, but subliminal, social, chemical, and genetic control as well, then there's no reason to think that those couldn't also be applied to the humans under their control, which would keep them from being as disturbed as they would normallly be by their unfair treatment.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/01 18:11:52
Subject: Re:How are Gue'Vesa regaurded among the Tau? [Also non-fire castes of Gue'Vesa?]
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Basically they remain what they are: Imperial Guard fighting for someone else. Keeping structure, officers and weapons.
And they are not members of any Tau caste, only Tau can be members of those.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/01 18:19:43
Subject: Re:How are Gue'Vesa regaurded among the Tau? [Also non-fire castes of Gue'Vesa?]
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Infiltrating Broodlord
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Actually, pulled up some bits on the Gue'Vesa. Basically, they live as standard imperial colonists with a restricted production allotment with farming machinery and the standard lasgun being the most sophisticated they can produce without clearance, while in times of need, the military can be granted access to pulse rifles, pulse carbines, markerlights, and EMP grenades. Also, while they have no real angst against the IoM, the IoM has angst against them. Old rule was that Imperial troops hit them on a 3+, regardless of weapon skill, in close combat.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/02 00:08:12
Subject: How are Gue'Vesa regaurded among the Tau? [Also non-fire castes of Gue'Vesa?]
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Fresh-Faced New User
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Thanks you've been a big help.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/02 00:16:19
Subject: How are Gue'Vesa regaurded among the Tau? [Also non-fire castes of Gue'Vesa?]
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Hallowed Canoness
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Here is the archived article Unyielding Hunger was referring to. I think the "being content under their new masters" is important, even though it does not actually tell us something about how the Tau themselves feel about them - other than the bit about the Gue'vesa having become "a respected part of their military".
That being said, the Tau Empire is a multi-species conglomerate by its very nature, so perhaps racism would quite simply be an alien concept (see what I did there) to them.
That's not to say that the Tau may not harbour feelings of superiority towards their Empire's other client species, but this is purely a guess based on human culture, so ...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/02 20:21:12
Subject: Re:How are Gue'Vesa regaurded among the Tau? [Also non-fire castes of Gue'Vesa?]
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Wrathful Warlord Titan Commander
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Unyielding Hunger wrote: Also, while they have no real angst against the IoM, the IoM has angst against them. Old rule was that Imperial troops hit them on a 3+, regardless of weapon skill, in close combat.
I don't think you read the thing correctly.
Angst? Sorry these "hits on a 3+ " rules were added to units who didn't like each other very much, one could go so fare to call it hate each other.
Gue'vesa are buried in the pile of old and discarded fluff. To drag them up means you have to understand what mechanics youre looking at. Not just imagine...
GW didn't show interest in them for some time. They aren't part of 6th edition 40k. Why should they?
So few Words were spent to inform the fanbase about the more common traitors, renegade PDF and turncoats siding with the arch enemy. If we don't get much when so many souls are the subject, Gue'vesa surely don't have the chance of a snowman in hell to see the light of current fluff publications. Thus all you will get is several years old. Maybe even older than some poster at Dakka.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/02 20:30:06
Subject: How are Gue'Vesa regaurded among the Tau? [Also non-fire castes of Gue'Vesa?]
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Sneaky Sniper Drone
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I still run a squad of Gue'Vesa when running a Tau army, using the old chapter approved list. They fit right in between Kroot and FWs when in CC and are just basically a cheap troop Choice on the table.
As for the Fluff....It seems that they are treated like any of the other Auxiliaries in the Tau Empire. The Tau are the First among equals....just like the Romans and their vassal troops.
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