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Hey Im not actually a NEW new player, I played a bit of 2nd and 4th, but just started to get back into 6th. I ran this list vs Blood Angel and got massacred. Can you guys help?



1000 points.

HQ Warlord
Warboss Biker - Powerklaw, BP
3 Biker Nobz - Choppa slugga

Big Mek, KFF
- 5 Lootas
mounted in
BattleWagon - Zzap, 4 Big Shootas, Deff rolla, RPJ

12 Shoota boyz w/ Nob (BP) in trukk x 2

12 Gretchin Squard

3 individual Deffkoptas w/ TL rokkits

I'm no expert, just getting back into the game myself, but here's a bit of what I've learned:

I would recommend slugga boys in the trukks. Give them a nob with a powerklaw and bosspole and you've got a great close combat unit for cheap.

The range on the lootas and the fact that they're heavy weapons means you probably don't want them mounted in the battlewagon moving around. Put a big mob of shoota boys in there instead so they can open up while the wagon is moving in for deffrolla attacks.

Speaking of the wagon, you could save a lot of points by shedding a few of those upgrades. The zzap gun is unreliable at best, and you probably only need one or two big shootas. I'm not partial to the RPJ myself, but some bosses swear by it. YMMV

Biker nobs and a biker boss are very expensive for a unit that is going to get shot to pieces. For the cost of just those biker nobs, you could have an entire unit of trukk boys with a nob. I feel like at this size of game, you probably want more bodies.

Here's the list I run at 1000 points for reference:

warboss w/ pk, attack squig, cybork body
big mek w/ kff
2x 12 slugga boyz w/ nob, pk, bp + trukk
1x 11 slugga boyz w/nob, pk, bp + trukk (warboss here)
19 shoota boyz (in battlewagon, mek here)
3x deffkoptas w/ TL rokkits
battlewagon w/ deffrolla, 2 big shootas

comes to 999 points.

With only 36 actual Orks in your army, I'd say your priority is getting more Boyz on the table. If you have less than twice the number of units your space marine opponent has, it just feels wrong.

Some little things- if you aren't giving your biker nobz big choppas/ klaws/ FnP/ Waagh! Banner, you may as well save some points and make them regular bikers at this point level.

Echoing Jambles, I'd drop the Zzap gun off of the wagon- for one shot at bs 2 per turn, it doesn't seem worth the points.

With that, see if you can fit 19 shoota boyz into the battlewagon, leaving the Lootas in cover somewhere to shoot from down range.

Also! Keep in mind that practice helps! Your first game, you're bound to get wrecked. Heck, your second and third games too! Just remember to take Orky joy in the fight, don't let it get you down, and learn from your mistakes!

All points noted, I've modified my list to this.

HQ
MegaArmor Boss w/ PK Cybork Body

Big Mek, KFF

Troops
Deff Dread w/ 2 KMB

19 Shoota Boys (Big Mek)

12 Sluggas w/ PK BP Nob
Trukk

11 Sluggas w/ BP Nob (Warboss)
Trukk

Heavy
BattleWagon (shoota/Mek here)
Kannon 1 BS RPJ

Elite
5 Lootas

Fast
3 DeffKoptas w/ TL Rokkits (individual units)

The Deff Dread feels out of place. It's going to be left behind by the rest of the army and singled out for an easy kill. Especially with expensive upgrades like KMBs.

A better substitute might be some deffkoptas or buggies with rokkits. Nice cheap expendable units that won't hurt too much if you lose one or two, but can easily make their points back with one lucky shot on the side armour of a vehicle, and they can keep up with the boys in the wagon and trukks.

Jambles wrote:


A better substitute might be some deffkoptas or buggies with rokkits. Nice cheap expendable units that won't hurt too much if you lose one or two, but can easily make their points back with one lucky shot on the side armour of a vehicle, and they can keep up with the boys in the wagon and trukks.

Already have 3 in there actually *fixed on an edit


I put the Dread w/ KMB to deal with armor 2+

How would you recomend I deal with a broadside? terms? or worse?

Remove Cybork body, it`s useless now. Also I would suggest remove Dreads and everything you put on Battlewagon, they are very specific. Deff koptas To be true I don`t like them but they are not bad, Hit and run is really helpfull
There ways you can do your roster
1) Buy more lootas and Mek gunz or
2) More boyz or
3) Elites: manz or burnas.

Blackskull27 wrote:
Remove Cybork body, it`s useless now. Also I would suggest remove Dreads and everything you put on Battlewagon, they are very specific. Deff koptas To be true I don`t like them but they are not bad, Hit and run is really helpfull
There ways you can do your roster
1) Buy more lootas and Mek gunz or
2) More boyz or
3) Elites: manz or burnas.

Yeah this is a 6th edition list, I dont play this anymore