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Im building/retooling my space marine army. It'll be a Dark Hunters biker army with Thunder fire cannon support. I want to add an anti-air component. I can add two vendettas with an IG ally. They would be squadronned together along with a single penal legion squad and an IC. Or I can go with two Stormtalons.

Im not confident with the Talons, they look real squishy.

Are they worth it?

Squadroned Vendettas are really annoying to manourver. Better off running them Solo. Stormtalons are great. Second best flyer in the game next to the Vendetta.

Why is it that good?

 kaiservonhugal wrote:
Why is it that good?

Against other fliers it can fly over them and shoot them in the rear with the cannon. Against ground targets it just pours on wounds (BS5 and STR6/7 are a great combo, it's almost an Eldar unit in the way it puts out wounds)

 anonymou5 wrote:

 kaiservonhugal wrote:
Why is it that good?

Against other fliers it can fly over them and shoot them in the rear with the cannon. Against ground targets it just pours on wounds (BS5 and STR6/7 are a great combo, it's almost an Eldar unit in the way it puts out wounds)

All of this + if you play as Iron Hands it can have It Will Not Die for free. So any hull points you do lose can come back on a 5+ at the end of each turn.

Vendettas aren't worth investing in right now with a new book around the corner. Price on them is going to shoot up quite a bit. Meanwhile the Talon has a set price for a good while.

How do you know for sure the price is going up. It could stay the same. Only GW knows that answer until the new dex comes out.

I will point out the Inquisition codex was just released with Valkyries and they are the same price as in the current IG Codex. They also have a new Ministorum Priest that is cheaper than the IG version and does nearly the same thing. The Priest in C:I is 25pts and C:IG is 45pts... their best weapon is a two handed chainfist and in C:I it is 30pts and in C:IG it is 15pts. So the C:I is 55pts total and the C:IG is 60pts total. Also Chimeras are in there and are the same price as well. The IG Priest might be changed to the new one, but their costs will nearly be identical. There are also Hot-shot lasguns and laspistols in C:I, and they also appear to be the same... so no Shuriken Catapult upgrade like in C:E.

It is starting to look like if they do mess with IG to much, it might not be a big jump and it might be the troops themselves and the equipment rather than the vehicles. Sure, maybe the Vendetta will go up in cost, but don't expect a huge bump. Maybe 10-20pts max because there was no change what-so-ever in the Valkyrie. I am hoping that vehicles can get options like Veteran Crew as a equipment upgrade, but I am not holding my breath on it.

As for the OP, I know you want to keep your Allies cheap, but a CCS with 4 melta guns is 90pts and a Vet Squad with 3 Melta guns is 100pts. A naked IC HQ is 70pts and a Penal squad is 80pts. Oh boy, your saving 40pts, but your turning it from a unit that does nothing to a unit that does something. That is not the area to be cheap in just to get two Vendettas, because now your effectively paying 410pts for 2 Vendettas. If your doing the Penal, do one Vendetta because all 11 figs can fit in one. Also, you have to squad them up where the Stormtalons don't have to be squadded up (your bikes should be troops at that point). This will allow them to engage multiple targets (well, two at least) and give you the option of splitting them up.

Six TLed Lascannons do a lot of hurt, but do you really need that for a single target?