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Greetings Dakka,

The following thing came up on a game I observed between two friends of mine;

The Ultramarine player had used the devastator doctrine that allowed him to reroll snapshots, he also had blessed a squad with Foreboding. They then get charged by X. Would they be allowed to reroll their shots at BS4 with the spell, or would it make it so that they're not classed as snapshots anymore?

I'd more inclined to rule it that they're still snapshots thus allowing the rerolls. The spell, for instance, states that you still cant fire blast weapons with it since they can not snapfire.

Sounds good to me. That looks like twin-linked BS4 overwatch because the foreboding says it modifies the overwatch bs to models original bs, and overwatch is a snap shot.

Yeah, as Mulletdude said. It's a snap shot that happens to be BS4 rather than 1.

Unless something specifically makes a change to the BS of a snap shot it will always be resolved at BS1.

From the BRB faq
Q: Can the BS1 of a Snap Shot ever be modified by special rules
that modify the BS of a model’s Shooting attack (such as Space
Marine Signums or Sergeant Telion’s Voice of Experience)? (p13)
A: No

 DJGietzen wrote:
Unless something specifically makes a change to the BS of a snap shot it will always be resolved at BS1.

Foreboding (the Divination power mentioned in the OP) specifically allows Overwatch at the unit's full BS rather than BS1.

Whilst I'm not totally sure they'd still count as Snap Shots at that point, the fact that you still cannot fire blast weapons etc. currently leaves me on the side that they'll be twin-linked by the CT.

For some related shenanigans. Tau marker lights allow one to (situationally) fire snap shots at a ballistic skill greater than 1 too.

I don't believe there is a specific rule which states shots fired at a higher ballistic skill are not still snapshots if they were originally.

Overwatch Fires Snapshots, This is Fact.

Foreboding and Markerlights allow for BS >1 to be used when firing Overwatch.

Those BS>1 shots are still snapshots because they are overwatch shots.

Just because the BS is Higher than 1 does not mean they stop being Snapshots(including Pinned Pathfinders with Ion Rifles making use of Higher BS via Markerlights in the normal shooting phase); A higher BS will not allow for Template and Blast weapons to be fired.

If they weren't Snap Shots, they wouldn't be able to fire in the enemy's turn because it wouldn't be Overwatch (as Overwatch is always Snap Shots), it would just be shooting. By the same token, if a unit were reduced to BS1 for some reason, their normal shots would not be counted as "Snap Shots", they would just be shooting at BS1.

In other words, no. If you're firing Overwatch at BS4, you're firing Overwatch - and therefore a Snap Shot - at BS4. However, you wouldn't be able to use the Signum to boost a model to BS5, because it's still a Snap Shot.

Just mimicking everyone else here:

I think the problem stems from a misconception as to what Snap Shots actually are. A lot of people seem to view Snap Shots and 'Set Ballistic Score to 1' as being identical terminology but this is not even close to correct. Snap Shots are something more complex then just a simple set modifier; They are an entire sub-set of rules informing us when we go about carrying out a special type of attack known by the same name. It is just because the most noticeable step is identical to, though clearly more important then, a Set Modifier that people have become so focused on that aspect that they can not separate the two. This leads to the misconception that any shot resolved at Ballistic Score 1 is a Snap Shot while all other shots are, therefore, not.

It doesn't matter what the Ballistic Score is resolved at, it is a Snap Shot if the rules state it is.

Sorry if I was not clear, foreboding specifically modifies the BS of the snap shots because you may only make snap shots in overwatch. It does not give you permission to fire anything else during overwatch.

In the potential future event that a rule could grant permission to make a regular shooting attack during over watch then foreboding will effect those shots

JinxDragon wrote:
They are an entire sub-set of rules informing us when we go about carrying out a special type of attack known by the same name.

It doesn't matter what the Ballistic Score is resolved at, it is a Snap Shot if the rules state it is.

Extremely well-put!

Just for a sense of completion snap shots also prevent precision shots so again another difference with a flat "resolve at Bs1" rule. So yes the CTs works as you still can't fire templates and blast markers nor can you precision shot.