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So want happens if one of the chaos gods dies say khorne goes too far and ganks slaanesh. Also could a chaos God ever in any possibility materialize into reality? Finallly how many daemons are there actually in existence? Could they take on the hive fleets or necrons?
   
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Chaos Gods can't be destroyed, they're primordial energy, they always have been and always will be, even Slaanesh technically existed before she was 'birthed' since time in the Warp flows in a non-linear manner.

No, Chaos Gods can't materialize into reality, though there have been attempts to make that occur.

Daemons don't "exist", so the answer there is zero.

Yes.

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If a Chaos god were to die, another one would likely form out of the emotions that god embodied eventually, or else one of their greater daemons would take their place. I'm not sure that anything but a Grey Knight is able to permanently kill a daemon though, it's more likely that they'd just reform after a while.

I don't think it's possible for one of the gods to materialize. The more powerful something is in the Warp, the harder it is for them to maintain a physical presence. Maybe if you sacrificed an entire solar system or something, you could get them to form for a moment or two, but it's unlikely they'd want to.

There are a lot of daemons in existence. Like, lots. They'd probably be the best bet for killing a hive fleet, since they wouldn't leave and biomass for them to absorb, and there's certainly more of them than there are necrons.

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There's a line in the wiki Realm of Chaos article that even Tzeentch doesn't know what would happen if Khorne were to take his greatest sword and smite the other chaos gods at full power, I think. Dunno what source it comes from, though, if any at all.

It's in Khorne's article in the wiki in the Citadel of Brass part.


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 Durza wrote:

I don't think it's possible for one of the gods to materialize. The more powerful something is in the Warp, the harder it is for them to maintain a physical presence. Maybe if you sacrificed an entire solar system or something, you could get them to form for a moment or two, but it's unlikely they'd want to.


Greater Daemons of Nurgle are said to sometimes be his avatars, although I don't think they've ever written a story showing this, annoyingly enough. And it's only a fraction of his personality anyways, I think.

Slaanesh itself was in the material realm as a Blackstone Fortress, kinda. Again it was only a portion of him, though, I think.

To have the entire god materialize in the material realm would probably be nearly the equivalent of having the entire warp materialize in it, though (I think)

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BaconUprising wrote:
So want happens if one of the chaos gods dies say khorne goes too far and ganks slaanesh.

According to Realm of Chaos this happen all the time, particularly for Lesser Chaos Gods. Their power and their "size" go up and down through the ages.

Giving that the number of Chaos Gods has been recently retconned from "infinite" to "four" by a single sentence in the Kelly´s Codex (by the way, the only sentence in the section he didn´t copy-pasted from the previous, brilliant work of Alessio Cavatore and Gav Thorpe), I am not sure it still applies. After all, we have only four gods now. I completely ignore that sentence, of course, and I recommend you to do the same, but that is just my opinion.

Also could a chaos God ever in any possibility materialize into reality?

One of the concepts that has stayed unchanged since Rogue Trader is that the Chaos Gods are places or locations inside the Warp. They are compared to landscapes. In all senses, Khorne is his own realm.

The Warp is a spiritual dimension, the place (in the setting, of course) where the souls go when people die. It is made of dreams, tales and emotions. A Chaos God cannot go outside the Warp, because it is the Warp.

However, warpstorms are referred as part of chaos entities, like a feeding orifice, and the background concerning "The Crimson Path" somehow implies that Abaddon´s plan is to open wide the Eye of Terror, engulfing Terra and turning it into a middle point between the Warp and reality. It is said that this will unleash hell, and create a chance for the Chaos Primarchs to return. It is the nearest thing to Chaos Gods entering reality that I have read.

Finallly how many daemons are there actually in existence?

Daemons are made of emotions, dreams and nightmares, tales and metaphors, hopes and lies. The Chaos Gods are beings made of raw emotion and Daemons are chunks of them. They get a bundle of emotion from their realm (and remember they are their realms) and give it intelligence, sentience and a purpose. That is a Daemon. They do not live, they do not die. They do not exist, yet they existed before the creation of time itself.

How many dreams are there actually in existence?

There is an infinite number of them. And it will be so as long as sentient beings exist to feed the Chaos Gods.

Could they take on the hive fleets or necrons?

Who? Daemons?
Yes, there are some examples in the setting. Not many, the setting is mostly written from the Imperial point of view.

By the way: your nick is hilarious

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The Chaos Gods are bound to the Warp entirely. Which is why they send their Daemons into the materium to do their bidding.

Each daemon is a small portion of the Chaos Gods power. So they effectively do enter the material realm, just not by conventional means.

As to how many daemons are there? These are Chaos daemons, there is no fixed number. More likely that it wildly fluctuates from one moment to the next. That is if there was such things as moments in the Warp.

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BaconUprising wrote:
So want happens if one of the chaos gods dies say khorne goes too far and ganks slaanesh. Also could a chaos God ever in any possibility materialize into reality? Finallly how many daemons are there actually in existence? Could they take on the hive fleets or necrons?


Gods cannot die so long as the things they are gods of exist in realspace.

If a Chaos God is ever able to fully manifest in realspace, Reality ends. Game over. Done. Finished.

There is an infinite number of daemons. They are truly immortal. Barring Warp-blocking effects from one or the other of them, yes.

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