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Typhus
Daemon prince, wings, armour, ML2, Tzeentch, Burning Brand
Daemon prince, wings, armour, ML3, Tzeentch, last memory of yuranthos
4x20 zombies
3 Heldrakes

Someone want to confirm a ruling in whether or not typhus makes the allied cultist into zombies? His rule states army wide

So I'm still around 125 points shy. I'm starting to catch on typhus is draining a bit of points so I'm weighing the pros and cons of fearless scoring and FnP vs plain old cultist.

Losing typhus frees a HQ slot (to which I have no idea what I'd use. That extra HQ slot is too valuable.) now I started thinking about this from a painting view, but what about a fourth heldrake on top of two daemon princes? Is that many vector strikes viable anti tank? Now without typhus and adding a heldrake it's 185 of spare points.

I know there's only so much theory crafting can do but the base concept is unchanged. And I'd rather wear down the wrinkles now. I did some play test with the oblits and really they just seemed to lack synergy with the list. They did their job, but they are a lot of points. Thoughts? I'm still trying to make the most out of this idea as I really like the design.

When you ally csm with black legion please clarify such as.

Primary detachment : csm

Typhus
Dp of tz, wing, armor, mlvl2, bbos

3x 20 zombies

3 hldrake

Allied detachment: black legion

Dp of tz, wings, armor, mlvl3, last memory of yuranthos

20 Cultist

Add squad points but not individual upgrade points please.

Typhus must be primary detachment to unlock zombies. Since the compulsory cultist troops are allies, they can not be zombies. Last memory is a black legion specific upgrade. Yes you can get a 4th turkey. You can substitute typhus for a 3rd dp, but i would prefer fearless& fnp guardsmen.

CSM Primary
Typhus
Daemon prince, wings, armour, ML2, Tzeentch, Burning Brand
3x20 Zombie
3x Heldrakes

Black Legion
Daemon prince, wings, armour, ML3, Tzeentch, last memory of yuranthos
1x20 zombies

1. I'm not wasting people's time on here. People can get an idea of points easily.
2. Typhus rule states cultist in the same "ARMY" not detachment
3. Do you actually have an opinion to finish/improve this list?

Here is my opinion. Shave 45 points from anywhere and get a 4th helturkey like all those people who ally that excuse of a codex supplement.

Rant: I use to remember a time when my 3 squads of chosen were worth their points in gold. I was so happy to find out chosen were unlockable as troops choices from taking failbadon. Every time my failbadon had to accept the mandatory challenge he would fall on his sword so i would put him in hand of horus mode and he would still only waste his 6 attacks on a low sergeant.

Now they make this fail legion as allies and you can take chosen as troops without failbadon but they are just a waste of points because they dont have infiltrate or outflanking in a metalbawk.

People ally faillegion just to get their 4th helturkey.

I like the new chosen with there 5 plasmaguns of doom

plus you know how hidden power fist is dead with the invent of challenges well chosen didn't hear that because any one of them can take the fist so ive had loads of people having a go at me when they try drag the guy with a fist into a challenge and I give tem one of my bolter mooks instead.

but yeah black legion is only there for the extra drake as everything else is already available in the original dex


add a maulerfieind.... then start rolling on the telepathy and if you luck out and get invisibly then your fiend will kill tanks and elite infantry squads, I take be'lakor purely so I can do this. on second thoughts kill a prince and take be'lakor he is so good and cheaper than your princes whilst being a tiny easy to hide model. new ebook for his data sheet.

If you follow most of my attempts at spaming chosen in a viable list, then you will see me trying to use 5 flamers and sometimes pf not on a champ for those chosen to die.