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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/07 14:50:53
Subject: First steamroller! 50pt deathclock cryx
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Stalwart Space Marine
Wichita, KS
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Finally getting into my first tournement! Just hoping to get any input on my lists, glaring weakness, interesting or out of the box tactics to use, ect. Cant dulicate characters, i went with scrap thralls as point fill.
List1
eDenny
Skarlock thrall
(2) defilers
(10) bane knights
(10) bane thralls w/ UA
(6) bile thralls
(10) blood witches w/ hag
Saxon Orrik
Gorman
Pistol Wraith
Warwitch Siren
(3) Scrap thralls
My thinking with this list is anti-hordes or any warmachine matchup that relys on tough. I think between the bikes, scraps and arc nodes theres enough target saturation to help the rest of my army get up to the fight. With ghostly and saxon terrain wont be an issue, especially if i cast death sentence on something. With curse of shadows, hag mini feat i should be able to threating theit caster very early.
List2
eGaspy2
Skarlock
Malice
(10) bane knights
(10) bane thralls w/UA
Tatersauce
(2) pistol wraiths
WSC
(6) bile thralls
(2) warwitch sirens.
Just gonna move up under clouds then go at it. Pretty straight forword with gaspy.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2013/12/07 17:52:52
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/07 16:30:50
Subject: First steamroller! 50pt deathclock cryx
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Purged Thrall
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List 2 could easliy trade the 6 scrap thralls for a warwitch siren.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/07 17:52:01
Subject: First steamroller! 50pt deathclock cryx
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Stalwart Space Marine
Wichita, KS
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My bad. The siren is missing. If i can snag the model i could field 2 instead of the scrap thrall.
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"Bothers! War calls you! Will you answer!?"
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/07 21:35:57
Subject: First steamroller! 50pt deathclock cryx
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Purged Thrall
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Heh, actually now that I'm looking at it again, list 1 could drop the scrap thralls and downgrade the defilers to 4 point nodes in order to pick up a second pistol wraith.
It comes down to preference, but I find that pistol wraiths work better and can cover more in pairs.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/07 23:44:53
Subject: First steamroller! 50pt deathclock cryx
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Bane Lord Tartar Sauce
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Personally I would try to have Saxon Orrik with Gaspy2. Ghost walk covers issues with terrain enough, especially with a skarlock to cast it.
Going general, have you been practising steamroller scenarios? Because you might find issue with the Gaspy plan if the scenario forces you to split your force. Also get some practice in with both deathclock and timed turns if you can. Deathclock to see how the game flows and timed turns to force you to keep moving and don't get bogged down in analysis paralysis.
Fun things to do with Deneghra2 include:
Knowing that magic attacks don't take her out of incorporeal. Cast away and be relatively safe.
She is a scenario monster, mostly because of her feat but also because of her teleporting spear.
And the spear can also be used for an assassination run. Charge into range of the enemy caster and place them in front of your army with their back to them.
You don't have to use incorporeal every other turn. Using it sparingly can be more powerful. Keeps the enemy guessing.
Hints with Gaspy2:
The clouds are great and all but you can also cause auto kills with your troops. Run them in to engage the enemy units, then place the clouds on top. They move away, they die to free strikes. They stay, they die to the cloud.
Moving on from that. Use the spear. It's something I forget but getting free souls is awesome. Gets gaspy even more powerful for next turn.
Excarnate is bloody awesome. A 19" threat with a purge? Yes please. On turns when you don't need clouds but have plenty of troops in threat range just purge over all of them and gain a load of souls from the spear again.
Placing your bile thralls becomes very important with Gaspy as the excarnated bile thrall can only be placed in command. Keep him right at the front because of this. Some players like to keep the bile thralls in a line leading from your deployment zone to the enemies. Means that each time one dies the range gets ever bigger, yet the leader is still right at the front. Don't do this against someone with an arc node and a spray, lest you loose all the bile thralls in one.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/08 09:36:54
Subject: First steamroller! 50pt deathclock cryx
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Vassal
Who Dey
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Ghaspy2 really wants the Deathjack for maximum Excarnate shenanigans.
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Building: Retribution of Scyrah
Playing: Warmachine: Retribution of Scyrah; Battletech Alfa Strike
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/08 18:25:44
Subject: First steamroller! 50pt deathclock cryx
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Bane Lord Tartar Sauce
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You can say the same about Deathjack and Denehra2 for two hellmouths a turn. The Deathjack is such an awesome bit of kit that works with pretty much any of the Cryx casters.
I have a major issue with your idea though. Excarnate produces the new, undead model within 3" of "this model". This model is Gaspy, not Deathjack. So to get the best out of the spell (i.e. more purge range) Gaspy needs to be in the front lines.
Either you haven't activated him yet, in which case you've been lucky that Gaspy survived being on the front lines. Or he has activated and the enemy is going to be sending in the beatsticks to remove Gaspy from the game.
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