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I recently picked up an Eldar Hornet and a revenant titan. Should I buy the IA 11: Doom of Mymeara that has the rules for both models or wait for a the second to hit. The Tau and SM just got updates to their books not long after their codex dropped but I haven't heard anything about AI 11. What do you guys think?

Practically everything has new rules in newer books, so the only reason to pick up IA11 would be for the fluff. For the Hornet and Revenant rules you're going to want the current IA:Apocalypse.

Actually, hold that thought, looks like the Revenant isn't in IA: Apocalypse for some reason.

Wait, I know why. The Revenant is in the new Escalation book from GW.

But the point stands. Everything in IA:11 has had it's rules updated in a newer book or PDF with the exception of, as far as I can tell, the Phantom titan and Shadow Spectre Phoenix Lord. IA: Aeronautica covers the planes and AA, Apocalypse covers the rest, and GW's Escalation has the Revenant.

Let it be known that the fluff is premium, and the stories of the Eldar are pretty wicked.

Just buy the book and don't care that GW wants you to buy expensive slightly updated rules every month.
IA11 is recent enough and a good read.

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IA11 is a fantastic book.

Having said that the rules are completely out of date. The points are wrong, no HP, D weapons rules, etc.

The hornet is in IA Apoc 2013 and the revenant is in Apoc or Escalation (those are the same rules). BTW making photocopies of a book you don't own to use is actually a form of theft. Not really something to advocate.

Chrysis wrote:
Practically everything has new rules in newer books, so the only reason to pick up IA11 would be for the fluff. For the Hornet and Revenant rules you're going to want the current IA:Apocalypse.

Actually, hold that thought, looks like the Revenant isn't in IA: Apocalypse for some reason.

Wait, I know why. The Revenant is in the new Escalation book from GW.

But the point stands. Everything in IA:11 has had it's rules updated in a newer book or PDF with the exception of, as far as I can tell, the Phantom titan and Shadow Spectre Phoenix Lord. IA: Aeronautica covers the planes and AA, Apocalypse covers the rest, and GW's Escalation has the Revenant.

This +1. Almost all the rules have changed.

Most IA books are really good if you can afford them... from a background point of view. As some people have pointed out, the rules are outdated.

It is a good read, though.

 da001 wrote:

It is a good read, though.

This +1 too - I forgot to put it in my previous post...

Thanks for the info. I honestly don't care about GW/FW's fluff at all and only want the rules. And I have ordered the Escalation book though my FLGS but Dallas has had a lot of ice this past weekend and the dallas area just gave up instead of trying to fix the roads so I won't get it until today or tomorrow.

I guess I will get the apoc book for the Hornet since the rules are out of date. IA: Apoc you say? The hornet isn't a super heavy.

There are a few other non-superheavies in IA:Apoc, too. That book is where the IA- only Craftworld Eldar stuff is.

The Phantom and Rev. titans, among other things, were moved to GW's Apoc book (a separate book from IA ).

Corsairs are also mostly untouched outside IA 11, but they're mostly a fluffy/obsolete faction.

My question is more to do you think they're gonna update IA 11 anytime soon? They just updated the Tau (IA3) and Space Marines (IA 2) to second editions to conincide with the new codexes/6th ed. I would like to buy/field a Wraithseer and Hornet. Possibly getting my hands on a phantom titan or some other super heavies.

I've recently been burned by the IA updates. Not long ago I bought the IA 1 2nd ed and it was then updated by both IA:Apoc and GW:Apoc making the book that I just purchased obsolete. And the new IG codex isn't that far away. I figured I'd pony up for IA 11 2nd ed if it was coming soon cause you'd figure I'd get some usage from it for a few years before 7th dropped and everything has to be redone again.

As far as fluff goes: On the list of things I care about GW/FW fluff fits right in between Angelina Jolie's new adopted child and Linsay Lohan's latest breakdown.

IA1 2ed is not in anyway obsolete. In fact all the rules in it are up to date and there are numerous units in it that were not updated yet. (and an entire army list).

IA11 probably will not be updated in the near future as it is less than 3 years old and all the important units have been updated elsewhere. The corsairs list is supposedly going to be updated in a free pdf in the near future (FW email and facebook responses say so at least).

IA11 also has some fantastic art work and great ideas for customizing your eldar force. Though if all you care about is rules then don't buy it.

I actually didn't think much of the fluff. Whoever was writing it didn't actually seem to be familiar with some of the more specific instances of it, like how D-Cannons work. So I got kind of irate when the fluff included a titan's void shields narrowly deflecting the projectile from a Phantom D-Cannon when a) D-Cannons don't fire projectiles and b) at the time D-Cannons ignored Void Shields.

 ansacs wrote:
IA1 2ed is not in anyway obsolete. In fact all the rules in it are up to date and there are numerous units in it that were not updated yet. (and an entire army list).

IA11 probably will not be updated in the near future as it is less than 3 years old and all the important units have been updated elsewhere. The corsairs list is supposedly going to be updated in a free pdf in the near future (FW email and facebook responses say so at least).

IA11 also has some fantastic art work and great ideas for customizing your eldar force. Though if all you care about is rules then don't buy it.

Most of the Super Heavy tanks got updated in the new Apoc books. For example: in IA:1 all of the SH came with a pair of lascannon/TL Heavy Bolter sponsons for free. In the Apoc book the costs changed (I believe they all got more expensive) and the sponsons had to be purchased. And when the new IG Dex comes out early next year I'm sure there will point cost changes and a few new units not in IA:1. But since Tau and SM just got new dexes the 2nd ed IAs have been released for them (IA:3 and IA:2 respectively). And IA:12 came out right after the Cron's dex.Which is making me wonder if FW screwed up and should have waited for the new Eldar dex before putting out IA:11 or if they planned on putting it out for a year then updating it again. If so I would buy IA:11 2nd ed but have no desire to drop $$$ on a book that maybe redone a month or so after I bought it.

I was just wondering if anyone was detecting a trend between dex and IA releases.