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Hi Dakka!

Im wanting to start up an Codex: Space Marines army using Imperial Fists chapter tactics. This'll be my first army and I've not bought anything yet so wanted to see if the list is decent

HQ:
Captain: Bike, Artificer Armor, Relic Blade, Storm Shield
[170]

Troops:
10 Man Tactical Squad: Multi-Melta, Meltagun, Rhino
Sergeant: Melta Bomb, Power Sword
[215]

10 Man Tactical Squad: Multi-Melta, Meltagun, Rhino
Sergeant: Melta Bomb, Power Sword
[215]

Heavy Support:
5 Man Devastator Squad: Lascannon x2, Missile Launcher x2
Sergeant: Combi-Melta
[150]

Total: [750]

I was debating whether to shuffle points around to be able to take Teeth of Terra for the captain.

Also I really dig the Centurion models and would love to include centurion devastators but I'm guessing I need a bigger points army before I can do that.

Just wanted to see if there were any noob mistakes ( seeing as I'm a noob ) before I actually bought anything.

Cheers for looking!

Well a few things, that may depend on personal preference.

At higher points for a beat face HQ, you'll want a chapter master for the extra wound and attack, as well as the shield eternal relic to keep him alive.
At this points level, a captain is fine though I prefer a thunder hammer, as S8 is just so good. (ID for T4, and much easier to wounds MC's).

On the sergeants, I find power weapons mostly pointless, as they still won't kill anything decent in CC, so for me it's a waste of points. Melta bombs are nice, but not always necessary. Remember you can combat squad if useful.

Why does the devastator sergeant have a combi-melta? It has such a short range, odds are it will never fire, and also he wants to be using the signum every turn, and being an ablative wound. (so he should be at the front of the squad to die first). Also just give them 4 lascannon, it will be much more effective.

For imperial fists devastators and centurions are good choices as they benefit from the chapter tactics, certainly look to filling out your HS slots at higher points levels.


Hope this is useful.

Thanks Jangustus

I agree with your points and have adjusted the list:

HQ:
Captain: Bike, Artificer Armor, Thunder Hammer, Storm Shield
[175]

Troops:
10 Man Tactical Squad: Plasma Cannon, Plasma Gun, Rhino
[205]

10 Man Tactical Squad: Multi-Melta, Meltagun, Rhino
[195]

Heavy Support:
5 Man Devastator Squad: Missile Launcher (w/ Flakk) x4
[170]

Total: [745]

Now I can have one tac-squad go after armor, and one go after infantry. Also by switching the devs to all missile launchers with flakk I think they can be quite versatile and adds anti-air which I didn't have before. I have 5 points left over but I guess I can just throw melta bombs on one of the sergeants.

 Aurokh wrote:


Also I really dig the Centurion models .

whaaaaaa.........

Welcome to the hobby. This would be a better list at 1000 points

HQ:
Chapter Master - 250 pts
Bike, TH, Arti Armour, SoE

*Better than a Captain, with an extra attack, wound and Orbital Bombardment. TH is better than a Relic Blade mostly because you can take on almost anything with a good chance of killing it. The Shield Of Eternal is great because of Eternal Warrior.*

Troops:
10x Man Tactical Squad - 220 Points
Melta, Multi-Melta, Combi-Flamer, Lightning Claw
in Rhino

10x Man Tactical Squad - 220 Points
Melta, Multi-Melta, Combi-Flamer, Lightning Claw
in Rhino

*Rerolling Wounds is a big deal and much better than getting an extra attack from two close combat weapons. I usually don't use Lightning Claws or any CCW for that matter but it can be helpful. One Flamer shot paired with the meltas gives you a little diversity. Melta Bombs can help a little but I don't see myself using them.

Heavy Support:
5x Man Devastator Squad - 110 pts
2x Lascannons

*Missiles are just bad right now in comparison to Lascannons.

This bring you to 800. You might want to think about getting an Aegis Defense Line with Quad Gun for 100 Points to give some AntiAir.

whaaaaaa.........

I was a power rangers kid...they kinda remind me of the mega-dragonzord AWESOMENESS rofl.


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Thanks Feasible!

I've read around that 750 points is a bit iffy to build a decent list, I thought I'd start a bit lower see where I end up. But looking at your list it seems I could get a lot more 'toys' on my army for 1000 points.

It also might let me squeeze in some centurion devastators somehow

I'm going to address the original list, because I think the others are bad for a couple reasons

Even at 1750 I'd rather have the Captain over the master, it's just so many more points for not a lot of upgrades.

I prefer the Relic blade over the TH because of challenges, if you aren't hitting strng 10 it's not worth it. Dedicate your captains squad to one thing, killing MEQ in your situation is appropriate since you've already got a good Dev squad.

Cut the power sword's and melta bomb's from your Tac squads. It just makes no sense. And the combi-melta on your dev sergent. These guy's aren't going to be in range for that.

I'd also cut the storm shield from your Hq as he already has 4++ and another defensive upgrade, with all these leftover points grabs 5 more biker's and stack em up with your HQ. This will give you another scoring unit, some more ranged firepower and a really good MEQ killing squad. All while being extremely mobile.

At 750 points it's really about maximizing points. I'd reckon my biker squad is far more durable than the previously suggested upgraded HQ chapter master. Much more versatile for sure.