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Hi,

I had a question the other day facing a Deamon army with my GK.
Kairos tried to cast a spell at my GK that were close to a Dread.

He starts with LD 9 (IIRC) and has 2 modifiers for his psychic test (+3 for Tzeentch and -4 for Reinforced Aegis).
The order is important as LD cannot be over 10 so if we add 3 first it makes 9 + 3 = 12 (brought back to 10) then -4 = 6
Or it could be 9-4+3 = 8

When i checked the BRB, it gives the order between multiplier and addition or set value but not what to do in that case.

Is there a rule to define what should be done? Is it depending on active player (who chooses the order)?
Is there any consensus? (tests at 8 are really far different from 6 against deamons)

I agre that GK do not need that to stand a chance against deamons but i still would be interested in the answer.

Thanks to you all.

You apply all modifiers and then cap at 10. So you're Ld8no matter which you do first.

I would just order of operations that. Because addition and subtraction happen at the same time in math, they would happen at the same time here, for a -1 to his LD9. I wouldn't resolve it as [max10](9+3)-4 = 6 because that really doesn't make sense

Ok thanks a lot for that.
I agree it seems logical and that is how we played it but wanted to make sure.

As subtractions and additions happen at the same time the player whos turn it is decides, so basically it will be the daemon players turn and they will decide whatever is best for them

MarkyMark wrote:
As subtractions and additions happen at the same time the player whos turn it is decides, so basically it will be the daemon players turn and they will decide whatever is best for them

No additions and subtractions happen at the same time. The max 10 comes in at the end (as does any minimum) because you have no permission to intercede that step.

MarkyMark wrote:
As subtractions and additions happen at the same time the player whos turn it is decides, so basically it will be the daemo n players turn and they will decide whatever is best for them

That only applies when two players have actions that occur at the same time. They dont.

You dont apply caps until after resolving the equation, as nothingint eh rules for multiple modifiers tells you to stop, apply cap, then complete the remaining steps.

Ha, just watch him struggle to make his powers at LD 8, and then deny it on a 5+ anyway. And good for you for taking a Dreadnought!