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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/16 16:38:33
Subject: Warlocks with Conceal + jet bikes
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Hi, I am just checking this, I don't want to do more than allude to the rule book, but I have to kind of ask matter-of-factly - a warlock with conceal gives +2 to the cover save but jink save on a jet bike that moved is 5+, do the two "overlap" or combine to make a 3+ cover save or is the jink 5+ and the conceal 5+ so that one is no better than the other?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/16 16:46:04
Subject: Warlocks with Conceal + jet bikes
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Kelne
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Conceal gives the Shrouded special rule. It does stack with an existing cover save (such as the one provided by Jink)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/16 16:53:28
Subject: Warlocks with Conceal + jet bikes
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thanks, my gut feeling is it does seem rather too powerful - (almost makes them like terminators) but then some stuff ignores cover saves.. anyway thank you or your help
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/16 16:54:58
Subject: Warlocks with Conceal + jet bikes
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ConanMan wrote:thanks, my gut feeling is it does seem rather too powerful - (almost makes them like terminators) but then some stuff ignores cover saves.. anyway thank you or your help
Then add a farseer to reroll failed saves. Warlocks on jetbikes are very nasty.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/16 18:35:17
Subject: Warlocks with Conceal + jet bikes
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Screaming Shining Spear
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And add a Baron for a 2+ Invuln in the front and you have made your Seerstar.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/16 18:54:58
Subject: Warlocks with Conceal + jet bikes
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Powerful Phoenix Lord
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Make sure a couple of the warlocks have protect as well. Nothing nastier then a unit with a re-rollable 2+/4++/3+++.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/18 00:08:25
Subject: Warlocks with Conceal + jet bikes
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Calm Celestian
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Are you just now realising this? What did you think people on the internet were complaining about?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/18 02:22:54
Subject: Warlocks with Conceal + jet bikes
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Kabalite Conscript
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Happyjew wrote:Make sure a couple of the warlocks have protect as well. Nothing nastier then a unit with a re-rollable 2+/4++/3+++.
with the Baron in the squad it is a 2+ cover save...since he confers stealth to the squad
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/18 04:00:07
Subject: Warlocks with Conceal + jet bikes
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Powerful Phoenix Lord
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I forget the Baron has Stealth, but then I don't run them on bikes anyway.
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Greebo had spent an irritating two minutes in that box. Technically, a cat locked in a box may be alive or it may be dead. You never know until you look. In fact, the mere act of opening the box will determine the state of the cat, although in this case there were three determinate states the cat could be in: these being Alive, Dead, and Bloody Furious.
Orks always ride in single file to hide their strength and numbers.
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