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Hey people

Just toying with ideas for a 2k(ish) SM list, don't know points yet so we are doing rough ideas.
So here it is.

HQ
Chapter Master with lotsa chapter relics

230



Troop
10 tac squad 1 plas gun 1 plas cannon drop pod - 235
10 tac squad 1 plas gun 1 plas cannon drop pod - 235

470



Elite
Legion of the damned (10) plas gun, plas cannon, powerfist - 305
Sterny - (9), 8 combi meltas, power weapon, drop pod - 328

635

Heavy

Centurions - Gravs and missles - 380
380






Allies
Khan bike - 150

Troop
5 bikes 2 grav guns - 135
5 bikes 2 grav guns - 135


Detachment
420



Total around 2150
Help me shave some points!!! 150 over atm

Could alter the centurions for a Las-Pred they are cheaper and less prone to getting bogged down, just make sure to watch its line of sights or it will get picked off early and quickly. Centurions are nice, but can be swapped to trim down those points you are over.

I'm guessing the Tacs will be combat squaded with the plasma guns using the drop pod while the Cannon stays and backline fires? Otherwise you might want to drop the drop pod in favor of a rhino.

Also what relics are you taking on your chapter master? Besides Shield of Eternal.

 deadrifler wrote:
Could alter the centurions for a Las-Pred they are cheaper and less prone to getting bogged down, just make sure to watch its line of sights or it will get picked off early and quickly. Centurions are nice, but can be swapped to trim down those points you are over.

I'm guessing the Tacs will be combat squaded with the plasma guns using the drop pod while the Cannon stays and backline fires? Otherwise you might want to drop the drop pod in favor of a rhino.

Also what relics are you taking on your chapter master? Besides Shield of Eternal.

Just to clarify plama cannons cant shoot after the drop so thats why you would need to combat squad them.

teeth of terra, shield eternal, storm bolter, art armour i'd say, so clocking in at a nice 240.

calcifer wrote:
teeth of terra, shield eternal, storm bolter, art armour i'd say, so clocking in at a nice 240.

Drop the Storm Bolter honestly, unneeded point sink, since you are a CC monster you want to wipe out most in your turn and clean up in his assault phase to avoid large scale small arms fire forcing you to fail that 2+/3++

Teeth is fine where its at since the points difference between it and a hammer are small. Though you could drop in favor of an AP2 weapon like Fist or Hammer but you'd lose the benefit of Rampage but would become a larger threat to anything with a 2+ save. Granted, have to remember that the HQ will almost always be outnumbered, so that rule does have its own benefit considering both suffer from Specialist and Shield of Eternal's Storm Shield rule.


Oh also another thing to consider unless you plan on using the Orbital Strike is just supplanting the Chapter Master with a Captain. You lose 1A and 1W but trim him from 130 start to 90 start.

I would Split the LoD at take 2 squads and use th epoints saved from dropping the Chapter Master to Captain to get more cover ignoring Plasmas.

Ok after codex study i have a better list,


HQ
Chapter master - bike, shield eternal, arty armour, teeth of terra
255



Troop
Bikers (5) - 2 grav guns - 135
Bikers (5) - 2 grav guns - 135
Tac squad (10) - Plasma gun, dpod - 190
Tac squad (10) - Plasma gun, dpod - 190
650



Elite
10 Sternies - 8 combi meltas, power weapon, dpod - 350
Legion of the damned (5) - 2 plasma cannon - 155
Legion of the damned (5) - 2 plasma cannon - 155
660



Fast attack
Typhoon speeder - 75
Typhoon speeder - 75
150



Heavy Support
Centurions - omniscope, grav cannon, missles - 290
290

total - 2005


Feedback for this one?

For the sternguard i would take x4 meltas, x4gravs, x1flamer, x1 combi flamer.

To drop to 1995 drop the omniscope.


I guess your going to combat squad the marines so plasmas go in pods and bolters hold objectives?

Also plasma combi plasma would be a good idea.

I plan to combat squad sternguard and pour 4 meltas each into 2 tanks (i play guard alot). Plasma could probs do it too and i can pod further away. i dont like using heavys in stern as not relentless i find the special issue ammo effective enough.

Also found that legion can only have one heavy so change one plasma cannon to a gun.

There is also the option to give the tac squads a lascannon each and turn typhoons into double heavy flamer speeders. dropping omniscope and one missle on the centurions makes it 1995.

tacs will be combat squadding and objective camping with heavies btw

Looks good then.

This list is very vulnerable to flyers. I'd ditch the landspeeders for a Stormtalon, which should free up the points to add the Omniscope back to the Centurion squad.


Of course, you could go with an ADL with quad gun instead of a Stormtalon, and use the remaining points to throw something else in. Maybe drop the missile launchers and omniscope from the Cents (you really don't need the Omniscope unless you are equiping one of them with lascannons) and the power weapon from the Sternguard. This should free up enough points for a Thunderfire Cannon (always a good investment).

that is all great advice thanks! will look into some flyers