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I'm playing a buddy of mine tonight who just got a held rake and I usually don't play marines, so any suggestions and tactics will be very helpful.

He will most likely be running:

Typhus
Lots of Zombies
1 Helbrute w/ melta
Cultists
Heldrake
Plague Marines in a rhino

I plan on taking:

Master of Forge w/ Shield eternal
2 10 man tacs w/ missle(flakk) combi plasma/melta and melta/plasma gun(combat squaded so missiles are with 4 regs.)
1 5 man tac w/ missle, combi grav

3 Ven Drednoughts w/ assault cannons, 1 w/ heavy flamer leads (I know these will give him a rough time as he won't have much anti-armor, used primarily to slow zombies, typhus, and plague marines)

2 speeder typhoons with multi-meltas(take out helbrute fast, then work on plagues or held rake)

this puts me at 1235 so I have some wiggle room.

is this enough to work?I don't have rhinos or anything right now so the drake is scary. I do however have a land raider that I can bring to possibly keep one squad shielded for a while. Thoughts? helpful tips?

Bring the lr, for now. U need adl and a quad gun or icarus. Get a storm talon. His drake may vector strike the rear armor on your ven dreads. Pray you get lucky rending on your assault cannons. Can your units take any sort of flakk missiles?

 Filch wrote:
Bring the lr, for now. U need adl and a quad gun or icarus. Get a storm talon. His drake may vector strike the rear armor on your ven dreads. Pray you get lucky rending on your assault cannons. Can your units take any sort of flakk missiles?

Yes I have 3 5-man units of tacs with flakk missiles. I feel like the lr costs a lot to fit into this list.

Easy additions would be the quad gun for sure. and if you have a LR take it as you want some cushioning.

What else you got to work with?
a Drop pod on the dread would be fum

Clean up the wargear on the tacs.
After doing the math and as it is REALLY saddening for me to see. a Las cannon will do better to blow up a heldrake than a flakk missile.

Can you change those speeders to regular speeders with heavy flamers or double MM?

otherwise split em up and deepstrike em. go second to let the heldrake come on first to avoid the initial vector strike.

i dont like the typoons against horde you need a vindi so handy, the venerable dreads a will be great,

lastly drop the shield eternal on the master of the forge and give him a conversion beamer its awsome


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i d take a drread with two twin linked ato canons for anti air if your not taking an aegis