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2013/12/24 18:32:17
Subject: What Deny's Cover or ignores LOS restrictions?
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Willing Inquisitorial Excruciator
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Help me out please. What out there can shoot you even if you are out of LOS? What AP3 or better stuff out there deny's cover saves? I have found that my lack of play time has transformed me from a half assed player to a "omg wtf bbq you suck" player over the last year. In hopes of avoiding moments of sadly picking up squads of my dudes that I thought were safe (or could at least roll a save) I was hoping for a heads up on some of the newer/nastier stuff out there. I played against some Tau broadsides that made me take like 15 saves a turn even out of LOS, I know about Hive Guard, what else? I know about the Baleflamer and other template based cover denying nastiness but what else will have me pulling squads of power armored guys out of cover with no save rolls?
Specifics: Trying to get a Purifier list to work in 6th Edition, probably hopeless but if I at least know my worst match ups I can have proper expectations. 
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2013/12/24 18:35:31
Subject: Re:What Deny's Cover or ignores LOS restrictions?
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Savage Khorne Berserker Biker
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In my army, I use a skull cannon which is S8 AP4 large blast, ignores cover. Pretty nasty unit. 
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2013/12/24 18:48:42
Subject: Re:What Deny's Cover or ignores LOS restrictions?
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Willing Inquisitorial Excruciator
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 sub-zero wrote:In my army, I use a skull cannon which is S8 AP4 large blast, ignores cover. Pretty nasty unit.
Ah yes, I get my 3+ against it at least though but it does ID anything in my army. 
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2013/12/24 19:11:48
Subject: Re:What Deny's Cover or ignores LOS restrictions?
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Veteran Wolf Guard Squad Leader
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any flame template, those nasty tau broadsides--any of their units can also be joined by a buffmander confering that rule also, and the riptide as well as the ships can take smart missile systems that are s5, t5 and ignore cover. of course, barrage weapons like the manticore or whirlwind dont need LOS, if im not mistaken the dark eldar flier has some missiles that ignore it also, all i can think of off the top of my head though.
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2013/12/24 19:28:43
Subject: What Deny's Cover or ignores LOS restrictions?
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Liche Priest Hierophant
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Some tyranid unit, Hive Guard I believe, also ignore LOS
If you mean Look Out Sir! not Line of Sight, then I can only think of 1, the Vindicare Assassin
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2013/12/25 01:21:54
Subject: What Deny's Cover or ignores LOS restrictions?
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Death-Dealing Ultramarine Devastator
Chicago, IL, USA
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A Deathstrike missile ignores cover, and as a barrage weapon may fire indirectly without line of sight.
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2013/12/25 19:51:18
Subject: What Deny's Cover or ignores LOS restrictions?
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Disguised Speculo
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IG have a crapload of ignores LoS, Tau have a crapload of ignores cover. Both with very powerful weapons
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2013/12/25 20:06:54
Subject: What Deny's Cover or ignores LOS restrictions?
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Tau markerlights can make any weapon they have ignore cover.
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2013/12/25 20:17:06
Subject: What Deny's Cover or ignores LOS restrictions?
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Lord Commander in a Plush Chair
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 Dakkamite wrote:IG have a crapload of ignores LoS, Tau have a crapload of ignores cover. Both with very powerful weapons
And the IG are Barrage so ignore intervening Cover between the shooting model and the target(you only get cover from area terrain or walls etc between the center hole and the model hit)
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2013/12/25 21:27:32
Subject: What Deny's Cover or ignores LOS restrictions?
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Tzeentch Veteran Marine with Psychic Potential
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IG artillery such as basilisks & that.
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2013/12/25 21:39:18
Subject: What Deny's Cover or ignores LOS restrictions?
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Discriminating Deathmark Assassin
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Thunderfire Cannons.
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