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Well this is my first list for dark eldar. I am basing it on what i have now and looking to expand from there. what do you guys think?

Hamonculus - Agoniser, Animus Vitae 75 Pts
Incubi x3 - 188pts
klavex - Murderous assault
Venom - Nightshield, splinter cannon

2x 10 Kabalite warriors - splinter cannon 180 pts x2
Raider splinter racks

4 wyches - Hydra Gauntlets, haywire grenades 135 pts
Venom - Splinter Cannon

Ravager - Dark Lances 115 pts

5 Reavers - Blaster 125 pts

My game plan is to move the raiders to objectives and grab them quick. the wyches will haul ass to anything that haywire grenades need to take out. The Haemie and incubi are hustling to tarpit or take out semi strong units. Reavers will bounce around to wherever they need to be. Ravage will give suppoorting fire to what the wyches are looking to pop.

any suggestions.

sg

If your going for a cheap HQ, the hamey is great(and FNP on the incubi is nice) but you don't need the agonizer and animus. The squad should stomp most units they touch, so you will get a second pain token by the time you finish your assault. The agonizer is a bit overkill with all the AP2 in the squad, but you can keep it if you want. A liquifier is always a good buy, and I usually go venom blade or scissorhand.

For the incubi, get a 4th guy if you don't have one. The klavex is optional, probably points better spent elsewhere.

I like my raiders with nightshields personally. Same with venoms.

Ravager needs night shields, and flickerfields if you can spare.

Get a 6th reaver so you can get another special weapon and more bladevane attacks.

This might sound ignorant, but are DE actually worth playing in 6ED?

 Retrogamer0001 wrote:
This might sound ignorant, but are DE actually worth playing in 6ED?

seeing as i play blood angels i like a beating

Where i play we never really have crazy WAAC lists and its more about a good time. We get a little competitive though. Plus i really dig the fluff of the dark eldar and such.

sg

 Retrogamer0001 wrote:
This might sound ignorant, but are DE actually worth playing in 6ED?

As a DE player myself, the answer is yes. You have to generally run them more shooty than assault, but there are ways for assault units to work. Urien Rakarth with a unit of Grotesques is a great Deathstar Assault Unit and Hellions with a Heliarch are just plain nasty if they can get to an enemy unit and pull out a character. Mostly, I personally run dedicated shooty DE. Kabalites on Raiders, Trueborn on Venoms, Occasionally throwing in Haemonculi to toughen my Kabalites up a little with Feel No Pain, Wyches on Venoms for taking out Land Raiders and similar threats...

There's a lot of great ways to make DE work in 6th.

I run a MEQ DE, list and it's nigh impossible to lose with. They are excellent.

You should put flickerfields on your vehicles. A 5+ invul comes in very handy considering the pts cost.

Keep the Haemy cheap, the incubi will kill everything they need to.

I'd swap the 2 Raider squads for 3 Venom squads. You trade 2 Dark Light shots for 3 and 22 poison shots for 36.

Why take Hydra Gauntlets on wyches when razorflails are the same points and are better???

You NEED to have 3 Heavy Support. Mix between the flyers and Ravager as you want (and dependant on meta) but you need 3. Ravagers go down incredibly quickly so you need multiples. This is a shooty edition and DE were better at shooting even in the last edition so you want to concentrate on shooting. That is your strength. You always want more units rather than bigger units, as none of your units are survivable make your opponent overkill little units you don't care about and waste firepower.

Reavers should probably be left at home at this points value. Particularly if you're taking Incubi.

Once you are paying that much for a Haemonculi, it might be worth swapping him out for a Succubus. Succubi are often over looked in favour of an Archon, but if you are looking for a cheap and very killy HQ she is your gal. Alternatively you could swap both the Haemonculi and his possie out for the world renown Baron and Beast pack.

Baron, 105pts
3 Beast Masters 36pts
5 Khymerae 60pts
4 Razorwings 60pts

This unit has 6 TIMES the amount of wounds and a lot more attacks. They are really fast and very few armies can effectively deal with them at this pt level. A very, very potent unit.

Also your Wyches are illegal, minimum units of 5. Easy swap of the Gauntlets for an extra wych. I'd also give you some advise, your Raiders are Death Traps. Don't stay in them if you think their is a good chance they will blow up because the explosion will wreck the unit inside, if you think you are in danger then jump out into terrain and go to ground if need be. Most enemies will ignore an empty raider anyhow, meaning it should be there late game to ferry you to objectives.

@ Flingitnow I disagree that you HAVE to fill out your heavy support. That much of a glass cannon isn't really fun, if someone is new to D they should come up with a list that gives them a taste of more then one play style, that way when they advance further they can decide which way he wants to go. Full Ravagers isn't even necessary, with if I remember a competitive foot-dar list doing very well with minimal eldar allies. More importantly, Combat is arguably more enjoyable then massed range fire, who doesn't love throwing buckets of dice then sweeping a unit. You won't find buckets of combat dice anywhere btter then in a beastpack.
Alex

I personally prefer harlequins over beast packs for cc as they can kill vehicles if required although they cost more in points.

MSU truly is the way forward with DE. You need to aim to table your opponent in every game. Overwhelm them with units on the basis you WILL lose a lot of them.

Eldar allies help a lot as well. Mixing in a Fire Prism and Wave Serpent with their armor 12 can help.

I actually take a Crimson Hunter in my 1850 list as well. Flyers are a royal pain for DE to deal with.

wow so many different opinions. I like that. I will defitnely play around with probably all the suggestions that you guys have said. In particuliar getting that 6th reaver and a few more venoms.

My upgrades that i plan on is 1 more ravager, a whole lot of beastmasters and pets and one flyer

After that i will probably pick up urian and the duke.

I plan i getting a few games in the weekend and lets see how it goes.

thanks

On the basis the GW khemerae are stupid expensive I would suggest you get a box of fantasy chaos warhounds or the other ones I can't remember the name of but they look like dogs with skin hanging off them!!!

Anyone know the unit name???