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So I wanted to compile the many rumors about orks and just have a place where ork players can view and discuss these rumors. All of these rumors are pulled directly off of dakkas rumor tracking thread.

Natfka on Faeit 212 - Total rumors: (268 TRUE) / (314 FALSE) / (34 PARTIALLY TRUE/VAGUE)

Orks - August 2013
via an anonymous source on Faeit 212
Orks will be coming in 2nd quarter of next year. PENDING

Ork Rumors - March 2013
Grot Whirlybird -
*Looks like a old Vietname War Hellicopter, big bulged bubble cockpit/body, skinny tail boom. PENDING
*About twice as big as the ork DefKoptas. Concept is the doors of the main body open on the
bottom like an old bomber to drop the Grots on to the battlefield. PENDING
*Cannot carry Orks or Bulky/Very Bulky models. PENDING
*Can drop Grots at any point along path travelled in movement phase only if not Zooming. PENDING
*Placement like deepstrike, but scatter is reduced if hovering. PENDING

Ork Codex - March 2013
grot boss - a big grot almost an ork. PENDING
Gretchin Weirdling - grot psyker. Lvl1. Upgrade to lvl 2. Access to divination, gork, and mork lists
Killa kans in elite. PENDING
Gretchin - can take control collars no ork herder like in ork list. 5-20 unit. Cheaper than ork codex gretchin by a pt. Can take whirlybird or looted wagon as dt PENDING
Squig runts- sounds like 40k equivalent of squig hoppers PENDING
Whirlybird – looks like a Huey hit with ork hammer, bomb doors underneath to drop gretchin PENDING
Grot scootas - rocket propelled skateboarders? Squad of 5-10. Hvy bolter profile weapon. PENDING
Grot buggies - drive by assault 8 grot blastas PENDING
Grot rocket - single shot roket with large range and big blast. PENDING
Big Guns – control collar option again, the ones from ork codex, plus a flakk gun with skyfire PENDING

Larry Vela aka Big Red - Total rumors: (33 TRUE) / (38 FALSE) / (5 PARTIALLY TRUE/VAGUE)

Release Schedule - Nov 2013
December/January: Tyranids PENDING
Q1-14: Dwarfs, Imperial Guard PENDING
Q2-14: Wood Elves, Orks PENDING
Q3-14: WFB 9th, Bretonnians, Space Wolves PENDING
Q4-14: Dark Eldar, ??? PENDING

Ork Rumors
It looks like we have a good idea of what the first half of 2014 is looking like.
Orks in June, after Imperial Guard PENDING
Ork models focus on updates/removal of metal and finecast models. PENDING

Gutrippa returns as a reimagined halftrack with a Kannon and a nasty spike filled front, and a AAA Flakkwagon alternative build. PENDING

Buggy kit PENDING
Flashgitz/Tankbustas combo-kit PENDING
Meganob kit (Warboss bit included) PENDING
Big Gunz/Suppagunz combo-kit PENDING
Deffkoptas PENDING
Plastic cybork parts are included in one of those kits. PENDING

Plastic Weirdboy clampack PENDING
Plastic Mek clampack PENDING

Last but not least... there is mixed chatter out there about... da CyBoar! PENDING

Ork Rumors - March - 2013
Mek Tank – Sporting a giant Shokk Attack Gun, firing Bomb Squigs. Tank can purchase a KFF. PENDING

Flashgits - Their Snazz guns roll for random range each turn (12+3d6). On a triple 1 they overheat like Gets Hot. The unit may purchase upgrades like +1 BS, +1A, blast, rapid fire, skyfire, ans others, several are mutually exclusive. PENDING

Boys - cheaper! PENDING

Meks - Look for ability to field an increased number of Deffdreads and Kanns than currently. PENDING

Stormboyz - Gain a "Rocket boost" attack that can target flyers. They must move 18” and if they pass a flyer they each get 2 attacks on it as if assaulting a vehicle. Move as infantry during their next turn. Looks like the designers played a lot of THQ's Space Marine! PENDING

Buggys / Trakks - May tank shock if they are upgraded with spiked plates/wheels. PENDING

Ork Rumors - March 2013
NEW HQs "Grot Boss" Grot with a stateline of a Ork Boy, but higher BS. Equipped with a nice kustom-mega-shoota as an option. Can also get a Buggy or take a Killa-kan as a transport/upgrade PENDING

"Da Crew" An HQ unit of even bigger Nobs. They have odd LoS modifications, One Nob must be nominated as "Da Boss", and if Da Boss is killed, one of Da Crew is promoted. This interacts in some new way with "Kill the Warlord" victory conditions, and is effectively an entire "warlord unit". PENDING

NEW UNITS Grot Whirlybird: Rotored transport: Capacity 20 Grots. They get dumped on the battlefield roughly from the Whirlybird taking a mandatory DT test, and cause mayhem if they fall atop another unit. PENDING

Grots Buggys: Similar to Nob Bikers, but are buggies with Grots on the back and Orks behind the wheel! Drive-by attacks. Highly likely this will be an "alternate unit" for a buggy combo-unit box. PENDING

Perfect Organism - Total rumors: (0 TRUE) / (0 FALSE) / (0 PARTIALLY TRUE/VAGUE)

Ork Rumors - March 2013
The ork codex is still a long way off (late next year at the soonest).(ed: late 2014) PENDING

Grots are not likely to feature heavily. PENDING

Boarboyz and other feral ork units probably won't get into the codex. PENDING

All the new plastic ork kits will have options to make at least two different units. PENDING

GW are pushing heavily to make all new kits multi-purpose, to minimise shelf space needed and reduce the risk of some kits not selling well. Apparently the ork range will push this concept further than we have seen before, with some kits being able to make radically different units.

One kit may be able to make a wartrakk, a chariot, an artillery piece or a special character (presumably Wazzdakka). The same bits are used in multiple roles (the example I was given was that one piece could be a rocket, an engine or a fuel tank, thanks to moving a few small bits around). PENDING

Another kit makes a looted wagon which can be either a transport or a couple of different types of tank. It seems that the transport variant may be a dedicated transport for some units. It looks more like a rhino than a leman russ. PENDING

Apparently there was a concept for a kit which could make several deffkoptas or one big flyer. This was considered a good idea, but actually designing the kit proved to be tricky. There were some concerns that it would be too complicated for the GW 'target market' to assemble. SPECULATION

Designs for buggies, big guns and mega-armour have supposedly been done for quite some time, but may have been sent back to the drawing-board to add new options since they weren't expected to be viable releases as they were. SPECULATION

At one stage it was suggested that the buggy kit could make three normal buggies or two heavy buggies (with six wheels and two sets of weapons each), but that would mean releasing it as a 'large' kit, which would cause some issues (as far as I can tell, the size and price points of kits are decided fairly early in the design process and changing them around is a lot of hassle). SPECULATION

Mega-armour could possibly be released as a single-figure meganob / big mek kit. This is the most likely kit to be seen before the main release. Very unlikely to be cheaper than the current finecast models, but supposedly better looking with more options. PENDING

There will probably only be one infantry box coming out with the codex. It should be a small group of 'high-value' infantry, with the option of building them as flash gitz or a couple of different 'new' units (cybork skarboyz and madboyz). Four 'standard' models and one character, who is dressed in a long coat and can be a nob, a painboy or a weirdboy, plus a squig and a runt. PENDING

Plastic blister-pack characters (like you get in fantasy) are supposed to be coming for 40k, but it seems that they are only designed fairly late in the process of getting ready for an army release so they won't have been worked on yet beyond the rough concept stage. PENDING
Likewise, finecast characters aren't likely to be sculpted yet. Finecast boxed kits, rather than blisters, are supposed to be phased out, so don't expect to see any new ones by the time the ork release happens. PENDING

Finally, it seems that some existing kits may be repackaged as multi-purpose kits. For example the current ork boyz kit could be sold as a dual shoota-boyz/choppa-boyz kit and the battlewagon could be used to make two 'different' vehicles (basically making dedicated transport battlewagons a different army list entry with a new name). These are not new kits, just new packaging. PENDING


Stickmonkey - Total rumors: (134 TRUE) / (260 FALSE) / (42 PARTIALLY TRUE/VAGUE)

Ork Rumors
Rumor is the battle wagon is getting reboxed, and will include the deffrolla sprue. ETA 2013. Price rise expected. FALSE

I'm hearing an ork wave with buggies/trax, PENDING
new battle wagon box (old battlewagon with deffrolla incl), DUPLICATE
tank bustas/flashgitz plastics PENDING
deffcoptas.PENDING

Ork Wave
Ork Wave by Spring 2013 FALSE
Ork buggy/half track Dakka/skorcha/rokket plastic (3x box) priced like Necron wraiths PENDING
Deffcopters all options plastic (3x box) priced like Terminators PENDING
Meganobs all options plastic (5x box) priced like terminators PENDING
Flashgits upgrade finecast (3x clamshell) priced like boneswords PENDING
Cybork upgrade finecast (3x clamshell) priced like boneswords PENDING
(although this rumor is supposedly false there is no reason it could not have been pushed back untill the codex release)

Tim the Thief - Total rumors: (2 TRUE) / (3 FALSE) / (0 PARTIALLY TRUE/VAGUE)
Ork RUmors
via Tim the Thief on Faeit 212
Waarghpoints
Every 3th Ork Mob Generate 1 Point, only Units with 10 or more Boyz count. PENDING

Weirdboyz
Weirdboyz do not generate Warppoints. Can use Waarghpoints for Psypowers. PENDING

Lootaboyz
New Special rule; the Lootaboyz Boss can use one Weapon of the last defeated Enemy Unit as an "one Shot". The Rule can be used only once per Defeaded Unit! PENDING

Bigmek
The use of the Snokk Attack Gun cost one Waargh point per shot PENDING

Waarghboss
Can use the ability "Waargh Cry", which cost one Waarghpoint PENDING

Ork Rumors
via Tim the Thief on Faeit 212
Orks will become a special Rule for they Psykers. Wierdboyz do not generated Warp Points, Units do it! 1 Point per 3 Units in your core Army. PENDING

Orks do not use levels. For every 3 Units your Armylist fill every Psyker in your Ork army can user one Point. PENDING

So there you have it all of the rumors pending for the orks. What do you guys think?

I love it. You even had some rumors on here that I haven't heard. My favorite is Da Crew. Also would like to see Grots have more use. Please let Flash Gitz be useful. Can't wait to see what we get.

grot psykers?

so what happens when those little gits suffer perils of the warp? their head explodes since theres nothing in there to "damage" anyway, and that force has to go somewhere? lol

So many epic ideas but i really doubt any will make it into the final product. Orks are one of those races where wishlists are abundant because theyre so random you can add just about anything beside precision shooting and it makes sense. I even had an AA gun idea thats BS1 and shoots a frakton of shots, so its not skyfire "technically" but when its "Aimed At Da Sky!" it fires so damn many shots that for orks it might as well be skyfire lol.

I don't play Orks, but I think: 1) they're one of the coolest races, really funny characters and great tongue-in-cheek army 2) they need a new codex. Badly.

I probably would play them if they didn't have so much randomness, but oh well.

I like the idea of the Grot Helicopter, but Id rather want it as a Kommando helicopter (as it sounds like it more belongs with them) than a Grot thing, I'm more fond of my boyz than the Grots..

Unless they give the grots access to better weapons i'd never use the grot kopta. Why do i want to dump grots along the field? A random 5man marine squad can shoot them off the table in 1 go lol not much of a speedbump

These are all exciting rumors. I believe almost all of these rule have been play tested. weather by GW or someone else. personally. I hope that our dex come after 7th ed rather than before if 7th ed is really going to be here in September. But knowing the luck of the deff skullz it will probably be the last codex of 6th.

7th ed in september? where did you hear that? 6th ed is what barely a year old or something?

i doubt they'd put 7th ed that quick. And if they do it would probably be more like a "patch" that we have to pay for to fix a lot of the dumb rules in 6th and/or make assault not so worthless.

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/570012.page here is the dakka thread on it. Seems like all the signs are pointing to it. here is the faeit link http://natfka.blogspot.com/2013/12/7th-edition-40k-and-warhammer-fantsy.html
Naftka seems to be convinced it is gonna happen and everything from 40k radio has been dead on so far.

No one has anything to say? To me it seems like we have been seeing a return to third edition. I hope this is true. Most of these rumors I believe are wish listing and statements of the obvious.I think nazdreg Will make a comeback. I also believe we will see a rework of waaaagh. Hopefully we will see the third edition like army special rules where waaaagh doubles initiative in the first round of combat and mob rule allows us to one again mob up when units fall back.

I really want a new codex for Orks. I have been running them as allies for SM lately but using all my old stuff as an army again would be nice.

rothrich wrote:
No one has anything to say?

There are already two threads about this. Little point in posting the same stuff in a third one.