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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/31 01:44:50
Subject: Emperor's Favourite
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Hurr! Ogryn Bone 'Ead!
Australia (insert either funny or interesting fact here)
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Who does the Emperor love more? Humans or his Space Marine legions?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/31 01:56:30
Subject: Emperor's Favourite
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Gore-Soaked Lunatic Witchhunter
Seattle
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Humans. The Space Marines were scheduled for termination (possibly via attrition) once their task of cleansing the galaxy of non-human life, and bringing all human worlds into the Imperial fold, was complete.
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It is best to be a pessimist. You are usually right and, when you're wrong, you're pleasantly surprised. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/31 02:05:40
Subject: Re:Emperor's Favourite
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Commander of the Mysterious 2nd Legion
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definatly humans, space marines where a means to an end
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Opinions are not facts please don't confuse the two |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/31 02:33:58
Subject: Emperor's Favourite
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Ork-Hunting Inquisitorial Xenokiller
Strike Cruiser Vladislav Volkov
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Psienesis wrote:Humans. The Space Marines were scheduled for termination (possibly via attrition) once their task of cleansing the galaxy of non-human life, and bringing all human worlds into the Imperial fold, was complete.
This. Remember the Thunder Warriors.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/31 02:53:00
Subject: Emperor's Favourite
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Gargantuan Gargant
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The end goal for the Emperor was always towards furthering humanity as a whole. The Space Marines like their predecessors the Thunder Warriors were simply a necessary tool he created to help facilitate the process to reach said goal.
Hell, look at the way he treats most of the primarchs (short of more personal ones like his relationship with Horus) inadequately and by extension you'll see how he views the Space Marines.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/31 10:24:27
Subject: Re:Emperor's Favourite
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Morphing Obliterator
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Humans.
When he retired, he took the power from the Primarchs and gave it to the High Lords. Horus was just a military leader, which was one of the reasons of the Primarch´s unrest that lead to the Heresy. And remember the Thunder Warriors. The Emperor has a thing for killing his "sons" once they are no longer needed. Another possible reason for Horus to turn, wondering what would be their fate after the Crusade.
So it is humans. Individually, they mean nothing to the Emperor, but it seems he tried to make the species stronger as a whole.
After humans, I would say Custodes are his favorites. It takes a lot of effort to create a Custode, and he kept doing it. They are also quite different from one another. On the other side, Astartes are more or less the same, and they were mass-produced during the Crusade.
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‘Your warriors will stand down and withdraw, Curze. That is an order, not a request. (…) When this campaign is won, you and I will have words’
Rogal Dorn, just before taking the beating of his life.
from The Dark King, by Graham McNeill.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/31 11:32:52
Subject: Re:Emperor's Favourite
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Stalwart Veteran Guard Sergeant
Czech Republic
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Humans. SM are simply one of many tools that serve its purpose protecting humanity. Accidentaly, this tool almost destroyed it.
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Being optimistic´s worthless if it means ignoring the suffering of this world. Worse than worthless. It´s bloody evil.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/31 14:41:13
Subject: Emperor's Favourite
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Pragmatic Primus Commanding Cult Forces
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The Emperor loved humans. That is why he created the SM in the first place.
However, I do not think the Emperor would have discarded the SM after the Crusade. For that, he loved his sons too much.
He might have stopped creating new Astartes however.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/31 15:02:34
Subject: Emperor's Favourite
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Lesser Daemon of Chaos
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I don't think there is any evidence that the Emperor "loved" his sons. He erased two of them from history, tore down the greatest work of the son that loved him the most, making him bow in the dirt in full view of 2 whole Legions. He sent Russ to crush Magnus (you can argue that Horus encourage the massacred but the Emperor couldn't have been any more inflammatory than by using the wolves to bring him to Terra). He pulled Angron from his world without helping those he cared about and then left him without even trying to help. He let Magnus be put on trial and publicly shamed in front of hundreds for what was already a foregone conclusion. He made no effort to nurture those Primarchs that had clearly been mentally scarred for the worse during their time pre-crusade (Kurze and Angron). The Emperor would have sacrificed anyone for his vision. Except maybe Horus, he let Horus rampage into the Sol System and kill millions, only resigning to end his life once he saw Horus had murdered Sanguinius and was beyond redemption.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/31 15:57:33
Subject: Emperor's Favourite
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The Last Chancer Who Survived
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KorPhaeron77 wrote:Except maybe Horus, he let Horus rampage into the Sol System and kill millions, only resigning to end his life once he saw Horus had murdered Sanguinius and was beyond redemption.
Because logic.
It's a wonder he even managed to unite humanity at all with his ways of thinking.
Back to OP, in some ways I think he didn't really give a damn towards the end of the crusade. He seems to have been far more focussed on defeating the chaos gods. Bloody "Imperial Truth"...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/31 17:17:57
Subject: Re:Emperor's Favourite
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Hardened Veteran Guardsman
Cadia
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For a guy who played a huge role in our human history the Emperor sure made some dumb decisions. His stance on religion is no more different than an average r/atheism user for instance. Guiding humanity behind the scenes my ass. It's most likely propaganda.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2013/12/31 17:18:35
Savior of Tartarus
Veteran of the assault on Lorn V
Conqueror of Kronus
Lord of the Kaurava system
Hero of the Aurelian Crusade |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/31 19:54:26
Subject: Emperor's Favourite
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Gore-Soaked Lunatic Witchhunter
Seattle
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He was rather effective at imposing his atheism though.
There's now but a handful of gods that anyone knows about, while 99% of Humanity knows only the God-Emperor.
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It is best to be a pessimist. You are usually right and, when you're wrong, you're pleasantly surprised. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/01 14:58:53
Subject: Emperor's Favourite
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The Last Chancer Who Survived
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Psienesis wrote:He was rather effective at imposing his atheism though.
There's now but a handful of gods that anyone knows about, while 99% of Humanity knows only the God-Emperor.
Ah, the sickly sweet irony
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/01 21:43:17
Subject: Re:Emperor's Favourite
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Dakka Veteran
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Well Marines are human. He wasn't seeking to replace base humanity with Marines, but in terms of "love" I would think he'd hold his Marines just as high as humanity in general. They were after all some of the best young men who had given their everything to help him accomplish his vision and who he had reforged by his own hand.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/01 22:55:36
Subject: Emperor's Favourite
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Space Marine Scout with Sniper Rifle
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yeah, Garviel Loken said something about the space marines settling down after the crusade
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2014/01/01 22:56:21
Inquisition motto: 'They don't like it cause the emprah don't like it'
Inquisition logic: "Hundred thousand guardsmen in the area....... WHO CARES, COMMENCE EXTERMINATUS!!! the emperor shall know his own"
Inquisition excuse: "it is the emperors will"
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/02 09:10:57
Subject: Emperor's Favourite
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The Last Chancer Who Survived
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Cursed Founding wrote:yeah, Garviel Loken said something about the space marines settling down after the crusade
"A moment of laxity spawns a lifetime of heresy!" - Some random SM in DoW: Dark Crusade.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/02 09:32:56
Subject: Re:Emperor's Favourite
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Commander of the Mysterious 2nd Legion
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da001 wrote:Humans.
When he retired, he took the power from the Primarchs and gave it to the High Lords. Horus was just a military leader, which was one of the reasons of the Primarch´s unrest that lead to the Heresy. And remember the Thunder Warriors. The Emperor has a thing for killing his "sons" once they are no longer needed. Another possible reason for Horus to turn, wondering what would be their fate after the Crusade.
So it is humans. Individually, they mean nothing to the Emperor, but it seems he tried to make the species stronger as a whole.
After humans, I would say Custodes are his favorites. It takes a lot of effort to create a Custode, and he kept doing it. They are also quite different from one another. On the other side, Astartes are more or less the same, and they were mass-produced during the Crusade.
in fairness dividing the military leaders from the civilian is seen as an important step towards developing a healthy society
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/02 13:03:38
Subject: Re:Emperor's Favourite
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Morphing Obliterator
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BrianDavion wrote: da001 wrote:Humans.
When he retired, he took the power from the Primarchs and gave it to the High Lords. Horus was just a military leader, which was one of the reasons of the Primarch´s unrest that lead to the Heresy. And remember the Thunder Warriors. The Emperor has a thing for killing his "sons" once they are no longer needed. Another possible reason for Horus to turn, wondering what would be their fate after the Crusade.
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in fairness dividing the military leaders from the civilian is seen as an important step towards developing a healthy society
Indeed.
Unless, of course, the military leader wants to keep the power for himself and starts a rebellion.
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‘Your warriors will stand down and withdraw, Curze. That is an order, not a request. (…) When this campaign is won, you and I will have words’
Rogal Dorn, just before taking the beating of his life.
from The Dark King, by Graham McNeill.
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