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Hey Dakka, I was considering getting 2 LRCs for my BT, and filling one with Vanguards and a small Crusader squads and the other with Termies and another Crusader squad, rushing them at the enemy, charging with the melee guys then driving to an objective and waiting until last turn before dropping the Crusader squads off to capture it. Would this work, or would the LRC's be wrecked or destroyed? I tend to play against DW, Tau and Necrons.

First of all, you can only transport 1 squad per Land Raider

Second, Necrons could glance them to death

Third, Tau will die in melee almost no matter what squad you threw at them so Vanguards and Terminators seem like a waste.

Well, against the DW and the necrons, the vanguard and terminators will do pretty well.

But AV14 vehicles can last awhile, it depends on what the enemy feels is a threat. I wouldn't expect both to last the whole game though. If the enemy wants one gone, they are going to blow it up. Which is nice because then it means the other can get where it needs to be.

I use battlewagons with my orks, theyre av14 and they prove to be pretty tough. A lot tougher than rhinos or trukks anyway.

Was just thinking this myself about adding a LRC to my GK army.

A lot sturdier than the two razorbacks I run currently

Oh sure, Land Raiders are tough, bring 3 Land Raiders against a Meta Tau list and have fun.

Not so good against Eldar and Necrons with their Lance and Gauss. Also any army that's expecting it. Don't let your enemy tailor their list by warning them that you're going to bring a load of them.

But there are a lot of armies not equipped to deal with Land Raider Spam. Just make sure you don't place them too close to each other because there are quite a few ways to deep strike melta attacks but as long as you're more than half the range away then it's pretty ineffective.

They would be viable, but maybe not the most competitive list.

DA are great allies to consider when running Landraiders. For 275 points you could get a prescience libby and a techmarine, both on bikes with PFGs, and a squad of 5 marine scouts with sniper rifles.

These would give your tanks a 4++ save which would help keep them alive, and cheap prescience is always nice.

Just a thought.

I'd say "viable" is the best term to describe this. Unfortunately, the LR, in general, is a pretty inefficient weapon system even if you opponent lacks good ways to eliminate it. You have to get out to score, and if your scoring troops aren't in them, then they can be worked around.

Depending on your local meta lrcs can be very viable.

There is a ton of str 7 weapons being fielded (serpent shields, tesla, missle packs, autocannons etc) and a lack of long range high ap shots with the exception of wraith knights. lrcs can be used as a reliable delivery system and can become a good distraction to draw pressure away from your scoring units.

Lrcs can be a very viable addition in the right army. Right now I am seeing alot of inq henchmen in lrcs from the gk and or inq book.

For the points, would a Stormraven be a better choice, being a flyer in lieu of a LRC?

More viable than godhammer.

I like the redeemer, and to be honest land raiders are really survivable. If you can keep track of where meltas are, and support land raiders then they are solid. Be sure to just try and knock out all lances.

I can count on one hand the number of times my Land Raider Crusader has died in 6th.

As a side note, all but one of them were to Scarabs, so watch out for that if you're facing Necrons.

Heck. as a tau player and a melta spam marine player Ive only killed a Land Raider once! EVER. Granted its a lot of bad luck on my part (fire 4 meltas in melta range, and 7 Lascannons in one turn with rerolls and didnt even scratch the thing!) I personally dread them when i see them, which makes me wonder why the heck im not running my land raider more often!

Personally I prefer the Redeemer variant. Sure its 2 less Terminators but 6 is all you really need in a CC unit: An IC, say Calgar or Lysander + 5 Terminators and has way better weapons IMHO.