Airbrush question!!!! not which one etc :-)

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**bopins**

hi guys. I got a badger renegade for christmas but it seems to have a problem.

When I go to use it, and press down for just Air, all the paint floods out as well without pulling back. I have never had this problem with the cheap chinese ones so I am at a loss to know what to do.

this is the first time I have used it today.

Ben.

**Chancetragedy**

Have you tried loosening the needle chuck and pushing the needle all the way forward to make sure it's closed to begin with?

**soitra**

Try placing the needle further forward.

**Dullspork**

What they said. If the paint is coming out then the needle isn't seated properly.

**bopins**

Magic guys thanks. all sorted. the needle was about 2mm from being fully closed!! happy bunny now :-)

**Admiral General Aladeen**

is it the krome by chance? How do you like it compared to the chinese ones?

**davethepak**

I have not used a Chinese clone, but the krome is amazing.

I have also used the renegade velocity, and it is pretty good too (basically a slightly less featured krome).

The sotar is very good as well, but exceptionally picky with paint - I would only suggest it for a very experienced user (who won't get frustrated by its operating requirements).

**soitra**

I got a Chinese clone for Christmas the Veda wd-180 looks a lot like an iwata.
Now having never used any other airbrush I can't really compare it to anything, but I am very happy with the results I've been getting with it.

**davethepak**

A lot of people have success with some of the knock-off brushes, especially the ones with larget needle sizes, where the tolerances are not a crucial.

The most common complaint is their consistent quality - while some may be ok, some are not, and this can lead to either a brush not working (at best) or it just not working right (worse - as you might not realize it...).

Its kind of a gamble, but for some folks they are ok with that.