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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/07 16:18:42
Subject: What's up with the rulebook cover art?!
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Monstrous Master Moulder
Space Cowboy Cruising Around Olympus Mons
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Alright so I have to say I am not a huge art buff or anything and haven't actually taken a hard look at the art in the rulebook but really like the art in most of the different codexs.
BUT today I was looking at the cover art for the rulebook and something looks WAAAAAYYYY off.
The main guy in the middle so so proportionate....his arms look miniature and his legs HUGE. It just looks wacky to me.
Does anyone else feel that way about the cover art? Am I missing something about the size of a space marines hands or something haha.
I just don't know why they would let such an proportionate guy on the front cover haha
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/07 16:27:43
Subject: What's up with the rulebook cover art?!
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Sword-Bearing Inquisitorial Crusader
Eindhoven, Netherlands
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Never noticed that before, but now that you mention it...
Maybe it's some sort of perspective-trick, where the legs are closer to you than the rest of the body?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/07 16:54:33
Subject: What's up with the rulebook cover art?!
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Been Around the Block
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The term you are looking for is forced perspective.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/07 16:57:12
Subject: What's up with the rulebook cover art?!
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Slashing Veteran Sword Bretheren
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If it's forced perspective, it's god-awful
The main rulebook cover art has always bothered me. He looks like the game-hunter at the end of Beetle Juice with the shrunken head. I mean of all the cool pieces of art to toss on the MAIN RULEBOOK, they use one of the worst.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/07 16:57:14
Subject: What's up with the rulebook cover art?!
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Monstrous Master Moulder
Space Cowboy Cruising Around Olympus Mons
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I don't think they did a good job if that is what they were going for
How can the arm be out and your legs way forward to make your arms look that tiny haha just an opinion
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/07 17:18:18
Subject: What's up with the rulebook cover art?!
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Ultramarine Master with Gauntlets of Macragge
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Space Marines are always disproportionately illustrated. It's unfortunately common:
But yeah, the dude's got tiny arms and huge legs.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/07 17:25:23
Subject: Re:What's up with the rulebook cover art?!
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Slashing Veteran Sword Bretheren
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Yeah, the tiny head thing is one thing, but at least the rest of the body is proportionate. Marneus Calgar has the worst case of shrunken head syndrome though.
I like to imagine he is actually curled up in a ball inside the chest of the suit.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/07 17:33:10
Subject: Re:What's up with the rulebook cover art?!
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Quick-fingered Warlord Moderatus
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Welcome to power armor art. lol The example posted isn't even the worst one. Check out the covers of the previous CSM 'dex and the current BA 'dex. The BA on the cover of his book would have to have a broken neck for his head to be cocked at that angle and be in that position and the guy on the old CSM cover either has the world's tiniest head OR he's actually a ratling and his arms and legs don't extend beyond the cuirass of his Power Armor. lol
It's a weird issue that only ever seems to effect Power Armor illustrations. I think it's hard for a lot of artists to reconcile a massive super-human who is wearing an even more massive suit of armor while not making things so outlandish that all you do is laugh ...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/07 17:36:36
Subject: What's up with the rulebook cover art?!
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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I like the cover art.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/08 04:30:48
Subject: What's up with the rulebook cover art?!
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Hoary Long Fang with Lascannon
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I think the issue most people have with the depiction of the Space Marines is that it's easy to forget they're in armor. If you wear power armor, your head will look disproportionately small in relation to the armor.
Since we rarely see unarmored examples, it's easy to forget that they're wearing a huge suit of armor over bodies that are likely proportionate to their heads.
Or maybe people assume that the armor is designed to be close fitting.
The two other examples given look fine to me. Just appears they are very large men in exceptionally large, and thick armor. Though the size of Calgar's armor makes him look more like a Centurion. Plenty of wiggle room I imagine.
One could also say they were reconstructed in proportions the Emperor found most effective for his intended use of them.
However, when it comes to the BRB, that cover is ridiculous. While I greatly enjoy the game, setting, and artwork from GW, and inspired by their product, some of the stuff GW approves baffles me. Never have I had a job that would approve such terrible submissions.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/08 05:12:32
Subject: What's up with the rulebook cover art?!
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Ancient Venerable Dark Angels Dreadnought
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Thankfully, the CSM, SM, Black Legion supplement, and the Imperial Fists supplement all have normal power armor art that isn't wacky.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/08 20:06:47
Subject: What's up with the rulebook cover art?!
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Ancient Chaos Terminator
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Lol good call, I never noticed that.
And what has been seen cannot be unseen.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/08 20:16:15
Subject: What's up with the rulebook cover art?!
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Heroic Senior Officer
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I was gonna make a thread about this a while ago. I find a lot of 40k art and models to be impossible. Someone good at drawing should draw a body that fits in power armour (using a faded space marine diagram picture) and see what it looks like because i am sure, that the things in those suits is just a head and a mush of guts with wires coming out of it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/08 20:28:56
Subject: Re:What's up with the rulebook cover art?!
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Gore-Soaked Lunatic Witchhunter
Seattle
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/08 20:32:56
Subject: What's up with the rulebook cover art?!
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Courageous Space Marine Captain
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Absolutely, it is horrible and has bugged me since the moment I saw it. The arm and hand holding the plasma pistol are just bizarre, it is like perspective suddenly started to work backwards (things getting smaller as the get closer.) I cannot understand how the artist could have fethed up so badly, considering that judging by the rest of the picture, he seems to be quite skilled.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/08 20:34:51
Subject: What's up with the rulebook cover art?!
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Heroic Senior Officer
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Thanks for the picture. But when done like that the space marines look incredibly different to most artwork i see. Looks very round and stubby. But explains a lot.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/08 23:00:03
Subject: Re:What's up with the rulebook cover art?!
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Morphing Obliterator
Elsewhere
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Talking about Astartes´ proportions, I like this fan-made attempt at it.
Here is the link to the blog, with interesting comments: http://tiny-plastic-dead.tumblr.com/post/50262558697/ah-yes-thank-you-i-need-to-reblog-this-if-just
On topic, I don´t like the rulebook cover art at all. Most figures at out of proportion, and it is a really bad example of the "this game has awesome Space Marines, as well as some other factions for losers" attitude from GW. It is the rulebook, it should have art concerning the setting, not just some random bolter porn.
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from The Dark King, by Graham McNeill.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/08 23:14:02
Subject: What's up with the rulebook cover art?!
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Hoary Long Fang with Lascannon
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This last picture is definitely more along the lines of what I imagined. That first one with the anatomy I always felt they looked too stumpy, and squatty to be able to move. Like the documentary on Schwarzenegger I saw where he was so big he could barely feed himself.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/08 23:17:19
Subject: What's up with the rulebook cover art?!
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Heroic Senior Officer
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Badger_Bhoy wrote:This last picture is definitely more along the lines of what I imagined. That first one with the anatomy I always felt they looked too stumpy, and squatty to be able to move. Like the documentary on Schwarzenegger I saw where he was so big he could barely feed himself.
agreed haha. That scared me as a kid... his arms where so huge...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/09 01:08:11
Subject: What's up with the rulebook cover art?!
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Oozing Plague Marine Terminator
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I HATED the 5th edition CSM codex cover. He had a beer gut and everything. Jeez, put your HELMET back on!
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