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Made in sk
Regular Dakkanaut





Hi, I am completely new to 40k and before I'll start to collect minis, I want to write army list. Here's a list that I came up with:

Duke Sliscus
4x Trueborn (2x Blaster, 2x Shardcarabine)
Venom ( Night Shield , Splinter cannon)

Haemonculus (Venom Blade, Liq. Gun)
9x Wracks(1x Liq. Gun 10p)
Raider

5x Kabalite warriors (1x Blaster)
Venom (Splinter cannon)

5x Kabalite warriors (1x Blaster)
Venom

9x Kabalite warriors(1x Blaster, 1x Splinter cannon)
Haemonculus (Liq. Gun, Shattershard)
Raider (Night Shield, Splinter rack)

3x Reavers (Heat lance, Cluster caltrops)

5x Scourges (2x Haywire blaster)

1x Ravager(Night shield, Flickerfield)

1xTalos Pain Engine(Twin. Liq. Gun,CCW, Stinger pod)



"Faith is the soul of any army; be it vested in primitive religion or enlightened truth. It makes even the least soldier mighty, the craven is remade worthy and through its balm any hardship may be endured. Faith ennobles all of the worlds the soldier undertakes be they so base or vile, and imports to them the golden spark of transcendent purpose."
— Lorgar Aurelian, Primarch of the Word Bearers 
   
Made in gb
Angered Reaver Arena Champion




Connah's Quay, North Wales

Good to see you decided to pick one of the most fun and rewarding army to play in my opinion. On the list, it's not what I would recommend for competitive play but If that's not what your going for we could help you work on what themes you like. I would be very happy to help you come up with a good and fluffy list to fit a theme you like (Warriors in raiders and Coven seems to be a big one here) or I could hep with a kick ass competitive build that takes not prisoners.

If you would give me a list of themes or units/models you'd like me to include I'd gladly write you up a 500, 1000 and 1500pt list (That's the best way to start a new army, so you can evolve it to your tastes once you get a feel for the army) that include those ideas. If you are rather dead set on your list there I would point out a few things such as your 9 man unit having a splinter cannon and some inefficient choices such as the extra CCW on the Talos, the Caltrops on the Reavers and the carbines on the trueborn. Either way I'd be glad to make you some smaller point armies that are beginner friendly (I started 40k with DE myself) and on a budget if you have one or help you readjust this one.

Alex

This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2014/01/09 16:44:09


 
   
Made in sk
Regular Dakkanaut





When I see DE for 1st time just ... I looking for "fun" list, I just glab minis i like and put them together but it can be more competitive its nothing bad. So, I like to heve in army this two HQ, some kabalites, wyches and scourges, something between anti inf. and anti veh.

"Faith is the soul of any army; be it vested in primitive religion or enlightened truth. It makes even the least soldier mighty, the craven is remade worthy and through its balm any hardship may be endured. Faith ennobles all of the worlds the soldier undertakes be they so base or vile, and imports to them the golden spark of transcendent purpose."
— Lorgar Aurelian, Primarch of the Word Bearers 
   
Made in gb
Angered Reaver Arena Champion




Connah's Quay, North Wales

Lets start with a 600pt list that is easy to get into and shows you what kind of theme you might like.

HQ. Succubus with Haywire grenades and Agoniser. 90pts

Elites. 3 Grotesques with 1 liquefier in a Rader. 175pts

Troops. 2x 4 Warriors plus 1 Warrior with Blaster in a Venom. 115pts each.

Heavy Support. Ravager. 105pts

Breakdown in spoiler.
Spoiler:

Succubus and Grotesques go together to make a rather fun little deathstar with Majority Toughness 5 and FnP. First turn they turbo boost somewhere juicy where next turn they jump out and chomp on something. In 600pts there isn't much they wont chomp and they are a very fun unit for both you and your opponent. If on a budget I recommend using Skaven Rat Ogres, with a tiny bit of work (from someone is terrible with conversions) they look he part and look great.

Warriors in Venoms. You will want them in almost every list you make, might as well start with them.

Ravager. You will want it no matter which theme you take, might as well start with it.


1000pts.


HQ.
Duke Sliscus the Serpent. 150pts
Succubus with Haywire grenades and Agoniser. 90pts

Elites.
3 Grotesques with 1 liquefier in a Rader. 175pts
4 Trueborn w/ 2 Splinter cannons in a Venom w/ Extra cannon and Night shields. 143pts

Troops. 2x 4 Warriors plus 1 Warrior with Blaster in a Venom. 115pts each.

Heavy Support.
Ravager. 105pts
Ravager. 105pts

998pts.

Breakdown in spoiler.

Spoiler:
HQ's. Duke starts with Trueborn to grant them 3+ poison on the bucket load of poison shots they are putting out, then he jumps ship onto the Grot's Raider to hang with his GF the Succubus. Now Extra deadly.

Trueborn are the extra firepower you are needing. Only 4 of them because they HAVE to start with the Duke, but the Splinter cannons will be their main damage as that unit and their venom will put out 10 wounds statistically at 36'' range.

Extra Ravager. 'Nuff said.




1500pts

HQ.
Duke Sliscus the Serpent. 150pts
Succubus with Haywire grenades and Agoniser. 90pts

Elites.
3 Grotesques with 1 liquefier in a Rader. 175pts
4 Trueborn w/ 2 Splinter cannons in a Venom w/ Extra cannon and Night shields. 143pts

Troops. 3 x 4 Warriors plus 1 Warrior with Blaster in a Venom w/ Extra Cannons. 125pts each.

Fast Attack.

2 x 4 Raver Jetbikes Plus 2 Jetbikes with Blasters as well as an Arena Champ with V. Blade. 177pts each.

Heavy Support.
Ravager. 105pts
Ravager. 105pts

Breakdown in Spoiler.

Spoiler:
Added Reavers. A Very fun unit that is surprisingly survivable with smart play you can assure that when they arrive from reserve they can instantly get a pain token from Blade Vanes on a weakened unit. They help with AV with their great mobility and can out assault most shooting units. A great multi rol unit, the best DE have.

Added Extra warrior for scoring needs. Added cannons for firepower. Done.


Good luck, Alex

This message was edited 3 times. Last update was at 2014/01/09 18:04:43


 
   
Made in us
Been Around the Block




replace the blaster in the true born with splinter cannons and give the venom the extra splinter cannon. It's a lot of shots that wound a three plus (14-18, I doubt the venom would get the upgrade as well). That unit can then pump out 12 shots from the venom and between 14-18 shots so it's great for MC killing as you can force so many saves they will fail enough to die and it can overwhelm small units. While the carbines do cost five more points, I personal find it worth while as they out shoot rifles even when they are in rapid fire range thou the lost of six inch range does mean you have to get closer.
   
Made in sk
Regular Dakkanaut





Ok, so something smaller.


Duke with 4x Trueborn with Blaster in Venom + cannon 163

Haemonculus with Agoniser and Liq gun 80 and 4x Wracks in Venom 175

4x Warriors plus 1 Warrior with Blaster in a Venom. 115

Ravager. 105


558p

"Faith is the soul of any army; be it vested in primitive religion or enlightened truth. It makes even the least soldier mighty, the craven is remade worthy and through its balm any hardship may be endured. Faith ennobles all of the worlds the soldier undertakes be they so base or vile, and imports to them the golden spark of transcendent purpose."
— Lorgar Aurelian, Primarch of the Word Bearers 
   
Made in us
Been Around the Block




You need at least two troops and one HQ, so your most resent posting isn't a valid list.

try something like this

HQ

Duke Sliscus
- total 150

Elites

Four Kabalite Trueborn
- two shardcarbines
- two splintercannons
- Venom with Splinter cannon
- total 143

Troops

Ten Kabalite Warriors
- Raider
- total 150

Five Kablite Warriors
- Blaster
- Venom
-total 115

Heavy support

Ravager
- total 105

total for list 663, this could easily be made into a 750pts list with some upgrades to the transports and/or ravager. Special Characters tend to be a huge sink in low point games, not saying it can't be done but it ends up being a 1/5th of the points you have. You really want the unit Duke Sliscus is join to have poisoned weapons so you can make the most use of the upgrade he gives, this is even more important in small point games because he is probably 40 points more then an archon after you equip it which is points you could put into vehicle upgrades or upgrades in your units.

This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2014/01/09 21:01:03


 
   
Made in gb
Angered Reaver Arena Champion




Connah's Quay, North Wales

He does have 2 troops, with the Haemonculi making Wracks troops. But I agree in that list you are paying to many points for abilities you won't use on the Duke, which in fact has a worse stat line then a standard Archon. That's why I only added in the Duke at 1000pts where it was possible to have a suitable unit for him while having AV and have another unit that he can play target saturation with. Even in my 1000pt list your paying a fair bit for that poison, but in my 1500pt list he becomes very well priced because of the inclusion of Reavers who benefit from his Drug Re-roll while Reavers are quite dependent on that Drug roll to make them competent melee units.

The Duke is a support hero and at 600pts he simply doesn't have enough of an army to support. That's why I included the Succubus, she was a very cheap and very powerful damage booster for the grotesques when killing 3+ saves they struggle with as well as letting them use her colossal Initiative for sweeping and running away. You could replace her with a similarly armed Archon but yo'd be missing out on a Dodge Save and free drugs, yes he has access to shadow field but if he takes it he defeats the point of being cheap. Also...Grot's are very cool and make great ablative wounds making the unit Majority T 5 as well as granting the Succubus FnP.

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2014/01/09 22:08:09


 
   
Made in sk
Regular Dakkanaut





Yeah that make sense, in this small army is Duke useless. So, I drop Duke and Haemo and take only Succub.

Succubus + Agoniser+ haywire, 3x Wrack in Venom with Splinter for 180 (almost like Duke alone)

5x Kabalite with Splinter c. in Venom with cannon
5x Kabalite with Splinter c. in Venom with cannon

3x Reavers

Ravager

For 596 points, though its seems to me like this list lack anti vehicle pover.

"Faith is the soul of any army; be it vested in primitive religion or enlightened truth. It makes even the least soldier mighty, the craven is remade worthy and through its balm any hardship may be endured. Faith ennobles all of the worlds the soldier undertakes be they so base or vile, and imports to them the golden spark of transcendent purpose."
— Lorgar Aurelian, Primarch of the Word Bearers 
   
 
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