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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/10 15:56:35
Subject: West Virginia chemical spill
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Androgynous Daemon Prince of Slaanesh
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Title says it all, somebody post a link please, I'm driving and can't. People near Charleston have some rough days ahead. I'll be in the middle of it myself.
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Reality is a nice place to visit, but I'd hate to live there.
Manchu wrote:I'm a Catholic. We eat our God.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/10 16:00:10
Subject: West Virginia chemical spill
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Link CHARLESTON, W. Va. – A federal disaster declaration has been issued for a West Virginia chemical spill that may have contaminated tap water and prompted officials to order residents in nine counties not to bathe, brush their teeth or wash their clothes. The declaration, made overnight, allows for direct federal assistance in dealing with the spill, Bill Hines of the Federal Emergency Management Agency said early Friday. It remained unclear how much of the chemical spilled into the river and at what concentration, or how long the advisory would last. The federal move came shortly after Gov. Earl Ray Tomblin declared a state of emergency Thursday when the spill from Freedom Industries hit a river and a nearby water treatment plant. Customers of West Virginia American Water in the affected areas also got the order from Tomblin on Thursday night: Do not drink, bathe, cook or wash clothes with tap water. The chemical, a foaming agent used in the coal preparation process, leaked from a tank at Freedom Industries, overran a containment area and went into the river earlier Thursday. Officials say the orders -- which the water company also delivered to residents via automated telephone messages -- were issued as a precaution, as they are still not sure exactly what hazard the spill posed to residents. It also was not immediately clear how much of the chemical spilled into the river and at what concentration. "I don't know if the water is not safe," said water company president Jeff McIntyre. "Until we get out and flush the actual system and do more testing, we can't say how long this (advisory) will last at this time." McIntyre said the chemical isn't lethal in its strongest form. Kanawha County emergency officials said the chemical is called 4-methylcyclohexane methanol. Freedom Industries officials were unavailable for comment. According to a fact sheet from Fisher Scientific, the chemical is harmful if swallowed and causes eye and skin irritation and could be harmful if inhaled. The emergency declaration involves customers in all or parts of the counties of Kanawha, Boone, Cabell, Clay, Jackson, Lincoln, Logan, Putnam and Roane. In the capital city of Charleston, a smell similar to licorice or cough syrup was evident in the air both outdoors and in areas where it had already reached the water supply. The smell was especially strong at the Charleston Marriott hotel a few blocks from the Elk River, which flows into the Kanawha River in downtown Charleston. The Marriott shut off all water to rooms, and then turned it back on so guests could flush toilets. Each guest was given two 16.9-ounce bottles of spring water upon returning to the hotel. The West Virginia National Guard planned to mobilize at an air base at Charleston's Yeager Airport on Friday to distribute bottled drinking water to emergency services agencies in the nine counties, Department of Military Affairs and Public Safety spokesman Lawrence Messina told The Associated Press. "They're committing all necessary resources to help with this," Messina said Thursday night. Messina said the drinking water will come from several different suppliers. After distribution, the various county agencies "will use their own game plans to distribute it, with hospitals and nursing homes getting priority," Messina said. Most people weren't waiting for outside help. Once word got out about the governor's declaration Thursday, customers stripped store shelves in many areas of items such as bottled water, paper cups and bowls. As many as 50 customers had lined up to buy water at a convenience store near the state Capitol in Charleston. "It was chaos, that's what it was," cashier Danny Cardwell said. Tomblin said the advisory also extends to restaurants, hospitals, nursing homes and other establishments that use tap water. At the Little India restaurant in Charleston, about 12 customers were asked to leave when bar manager Bill LaCourse learned about the shutdown notice. West Virginia lawmakers who just started their session this week won't conduct business on Friday because of the problem and State Department of Education spokeswoman Liza Cordeiro said schools in at least five of the counties will be closed. Karlee Bolen, 16, of Charleston, said her family, including her parents, two sisters and brother, were considering the possibility of heading to her grandmother's home in Braxton County, where tap water was unaffected, an hour to the northeast. "I kind of want to shower and brush my teeth," she said. "The chemical, a foaming agent used in the coal preparation process, leaked from a tank at Freedom Industries, overran a containment area and went into the river earlier Thursday." One of my first jobs was doing safety assessments at a very large chemical plant, both in terms of worker safety and environmental releases. What-If scenarios, containment sizing, pressure relief valve sizing, etc. This sounds like (1) a complete design feth up and (2) major operational feth up or (3) major inspection feth up.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/10 16:05:39
Subject: West Virginia chemical spill
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Androgynous Daemon Prince of Slaanesh
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Thanks Kronk.
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Reality is a nice place to visit, but I'd hate to live there.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/10 16:06:35
Subject: West Virginia chemical spill
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Secret Force Behind the Rise of the Tau
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But Kronk, I thought you were a professional ladies man?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/10 16:15:59
Subject: West Virginia chemical spill
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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It's what I did for money. Dates are expensive until you establish yourself. Then, it's gravy!
Joking aside, I hope this spill isn't as bad as they are making it out to be.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/10 16:18:13
Subject: West Virginia chemical spill
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Shas'ui with Bonding Knife
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Maybe you'll turn into a superhero if you drink the water!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/10 17:17:20
Subject: West Virginia chemical spill
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Androgynous Daemon Prince of Slaanesh
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They won't let me. Water is shut off.
And they're taking it very seriously, Kronk. I'm not there yet, but I haven't heard anything good. Automatically Appended Next Post: So now that I'm in a town next to Charleston...it's like a warzone here. Went to Walmart, the shelves have been raided. Very few people are out, and the ones that are have shopping carts full of microwave pizzas. I'm actually a bit entertained, now that I'm here. Drink iced tea for the night folks, or soda, you'll get through it. The mechanic I had to get assistance from earlier though said there was a rumor of sabatage going around.
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Reality is a nice place to visit, but I'd hate to live there.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/11 16:01:51
Subject: Re:West Virginia chemical spill
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Androgynous Daemon Prince of Slaanesh
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Small update from last night/this morning: still no water, but it sounds like the chemical in question is diluted WAY down and is near harmless. Quick snippet from the radio. I'm here, I'm bored, so you all gotta listen to me. Err...read from me...whatever.
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Reality is a nice place to visit, but I'd hate to live there.
Manchu wrote:I'm a Catholic. We eat our God.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/11 16:06:10
Subject: West Virginia chemical spill
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Do you work as part of some First Response team, timetowaste85?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/11 17:26:04
Subject: West Virginia chemical spill
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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I'd be wary of the 'it's diluted so far it's harmless' story
at least in the short term
saying it is harmful (since there's no way to get rid of it) would mean admitting they whole area may have to be evacuated for who knows how long (short tem bottled water is OK, but if it took years to clean the water table would the government really carry on paying for it)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/11 17:52:36
Subject: West Virginia chemical spill
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Fate-Controlling Farseer
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I don't think I'd be to concerned about it.
The chemical itself wasn't lethal even in it's most concentrated form. It's been two days since it's exposure to the water supply, it should be extremely diluted by this point.
The county/city/government is not going to tell people it's safe, because their afraid of a bit of work. The resulting law suits would be far more damaging.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/11 19:12:49
Subject: West Virginia chemical spill
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Androgynous Daemon Prince of Slaanesh
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kronk wrote:Do you work as part of some First Response team, timetowaste85?
I don't, no, but I'm (my company, anyway) a private contractor for the national guard. They're doing a lot of the legwork on this. The base I'm on right now just had hundreds of cases of water shipped in.
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Reality is a nice place to visit, but I'd hate to live there.
Manchu wrote:I'm a Catholic. We eat our God.
Due to work, I can usually only ship any sales or trades out on Saturday morning. Please trade/purchase with this in mind. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/11 19:23:23
Subject: West Virginia chemical spill
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Drone without a Controller
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Derp.
My brother really likes chemistry and has set up a lab in my basement. I often come home to strange smells and odors, but contamination in the water? That's bad.
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How are you gentlemen. All your base are belong to us.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/11 19:55:13
Subject: West Virginia chemical spill
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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SignMaster99 wrote:Derp.
My brother really likes chemistry and has set up a lab in my basement. I often come home to strange smells and odors, but contamination in the water? That's bad.
So are meth labs.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/11 22:48:57
Subject: West Virginia chemical spill
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Lady of the Lake
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I was thinking that, but...
"The chemical, a foaming agent used in the coal preparation process, leaked from a tank at Freedom Industries, overran a containment area and went into the river earlier Thursday."
I don't think it'd be worth getting those powers.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/12 20:37:48
Subject: West Virginia chemical spill
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Incorporating Wet-Blending
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The stuff is basically soap. It's an irritant, but not especially toxic and doesn't have any heavy metals or anything like that in it. It's bad that it got into the waterway, but not any kind of shotguns and canned goods situation.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/13 04:50:54
Subject: West Virginia chemical spill
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Posts with Authority
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Just run it through a Brita filter and you're golden.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/14 14:57:20
Subject: Re:West Virginia chemical spill
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
The Great State of Texas
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they are opening up the water supply again. if it were me and I had the capacity I still woudn't drink it for another week.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/14 20:06:38
Subject: Re:West Virginia chemical spill
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Boom! Leman Russ Commander
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I live in the county just below one of the ones effected by this. People have been pretty crazy over water. A lot of police officers have had to stand guard to keep people from fighting over bottles of water. I know a few businesses have gotten into trouble over charging really high pries for water. A few were charging like $75 for a case of water...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/15 00:21:23
Subject: West Virginia chemical spill
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Androgynous Daemon Prince of Slaanesh
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I'm outta there now, but it was seriously messed up for a while. Hope the folks I was working with who are local are getting back to a sense of normalcy.
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Reality is a nice place to visit, but I'd hate to live there.
Manchu wrote:I'm a Catholic. We eat our God.
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