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HQ
Flyrant, 2x tl devourers, hive commander. 250
Flyrant, 2x tl devourers, hive commander. 250

Elite
2x Hive Guard 110
2x Hive Guard 110

Troop
30 Termagants 120 Outflank
30 Termagants 120 Outflank
Tervigon 195
Tervigon 195

Fast Attack
Crone 155
Crone 155

Heavy Support
Exocrine 170
Exocrine 170

outfalnking termigaunts will just result in first blood for your opponent. Im personaly planing on giving a tervigon the miasma cannon artefact and regeneration then outflanking him. super tough unit with stinger salvo and template poison (2+) weapon will make for one tough cookie not to mention gaunt spawns. its only 250 points and i promise you once people know what kind of havoc that thing will bring it will be a top priority allowing you to bring other bugs in without much attention.

Miasma would be best on a cc flyrant I think. Just hope you roll warp blast as well.

I have a 1500 campaign ive been playing in, and for my first game with the new codex, im looking to try (proxy) some new units. Ill admit that i skimmed over the venonthrope changed too quickly.

HQ 2x flying ht 2xdev hive commander
Elite venomthrope
Troop 2x 30 gaunts, 2 x tervigon
Fast crone
Heavy exocrine

Tervigons are not a go to choice in this codex anymore. They're tough sure but they are VERY expensive. They give almost no Buffs to gaunts now, can't be buffed to be useful in combat themselves anymore and have doubled the range of all your gaunts die when I do. All this put together means unless you're outflanking him you should leave him at home.

If you're outflanking gaunts they should have devourers. That is basically the only reason to take Hive Commander. The surprise 90 S4 shots to your face trick.

Other than that I think you're light on HS. If you swap the Hiveguard over to Zoanthropes and dump both Tervigons you have 440 points. Upgrade a unit of gaunts to Devourers and get yourself a brood of Dakkafexes with toxin. You now have significantly more firepower. More CC threat and that 90 S4 shots trick to blow a whole in a battle line.

 FlingitNow wrote:
Tervigons are not a go to choice in this codex anymore. They're tough sure but they are VERY expensive. They give almost no Buffs to gaunts now, can't be buffed to be useful in combat themselves anymore and have doubled the range of all your gaunts die when I do. All this put together means unless you're outflanking him you should leave him at home.

If you're outflanking gaunts they should have devourers. That is basically the only reason to take Hive Commander. The surprise 90 S4 shots to your face trick.

Other than that I think you're light on HS. If you swap the Hiveguard over to Zoanthropes and dump both Tervigons you have 440 points. Upgrade a unit of gaunts to Devourers and get yourself a brood of Dakkafexes with toxin. You now have significantly more firepower. More CC threat and that 90 S4 shots trick to blow a whole in a battle line.

So what would you use or troops then without a tervigon spawning more gaunts to hold multiple objectives or tie up multiple enemy units.

I think you have to play to table and contest with this codex. The troops selection is weak.

Edited 1850 list

HQ
Flyrant, 2x tl devourers, hive commander. 250
Flyrant, 2x tl devourers 230

Elite
Venomthrope 45
Venomthrope 45

Troop
30 Termagants 120
30 Termagants 120
Tervigon 195
Tervigon 195

Fast Attack
Crone 155
Crone 155

Heavy Support
Exocrine 170
Exocrine 170

Looks pretty cool. Will probably do quite well. Still not convinced by Tervigons even in troops (though there is little other good choices). 4 FMCs is good Saturation (though the 4+ armour on the Crone worries me when everyone's AA is Ap4). A little low on MCs and HS for my liking but should do quite well let us know how it gets on. Range could be an issue though the FMCs do help there a lot.

I dont like your tervigons anymore because, like people have said, they no longer confer all the gant bonuses. And when you outflank them that first turn, your not spawning, So youve got 200 points just chilling and hoping that you get the side you want with outflank, because we no longer get the bonuses from the HT ability.

 FlingitNow wrote:
Looks pretty cool. Will probably do quite well. Still not convinced by Tervigons even in troops (though there is little other good choices). 4 FMCs is good Saturation (though the 4+ armour on the Crone worries me when everyone's AA is Ap4). A little low on MCs and HS for my liking but should do quite well let us know how it gets on. Range could be an issue though the FMCs do help there a lot.

8 MC's not enough then?

i really like this list despite its lack of fexes. Although i agree with Flingitnow about AA concerns for the Crones, you give target saturation issues to the enemy. he either shoots the crones in which case you flyrants are unharmed or he shoots flyrants and crones survivability issues disappear.

are you still planning to outflank the gaunt units? if so i think would consider dropping 1 venomthrope to take the Ymargl artifact upgrade for your warlord. Its the only way to get him a 2+ armour save, or +1 to either Attacks or Toughness?

If not then i say stick with the list you have as i think its pretty solid.

Not when 2 are Crones.

Ymgarl factor is useless only works in assault phase no 2+ Flyrants.

I think putting Toxin on both Flyrants is better than outflanking 1 unit of Termagants.

 FlingitNow wrote:
Not when 2 are Crones.

Ymgarl factor is useless only works in assault phase no 2+ Flyrants.

I think putting Toxin on both Flyrants is better than outflanking 1 unit of Termagants.

Well that sucks donkey bum.

Oh well. 10 fexes it is then

Not too attached to outflank, was just 20 points shy. Turn 1, everyone should have 3+ cover between area terrain and venomthropes. After that, hopefully much of their AA can be focus fired by 4 fmcs. Any onslaught rolls will be going to exocrines. Though nerfed, still like tervigons for troops. The target saturation is part of the idea. I always run dual tyrants, and the idea of a different unit soaking AA fire sounds great. 31 points a wound, taking 5+ cover saves.