On a yearly basis, alcohol ends and ruins more lives than guns

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**Surtur**

The whole purpose of this thread is rather ridiculous. Something is worse than guns therefore guns aren't so bad and the other thing should be regulated more. If you're going for that, you'll need something better than alcohol. DARE, MADD and other educational groups, surgeon general's warnings, age restrictions, laws for selling and possessing alcohol, laws for public intoxication and a whole federal police service that has alcohol in it's name isn't enough for you? We tried prohibition as well and that didn't go so hot. I'm curious as to what else you want at this point. That hardly matters however, as the OP's argument smacks of strawman.

**Surtur**

Relapse wrote:
Surtur wrote:
The whole purpose of this thread is rather ridiculous. Something is worse than guns therefore guns aren't so bad and the other thing should be regulated more. If you're going for that, you'll need something better than alcohol. DARE, MADD and other educational groups, surgeon general's warnings, age restrictions, laws for selling and possessing alcohol, laws for public intoxication and a whole federal police service that has alcohol in it's name isn't enough for you? We tried prohibition as well and that didn't go so hot. I'm curious as to what else you want at this point. That hardly matters however, as the OP's argument smacks of strawman.

I said earlier that prohibition isn't going to do it. What gets me are the news items and politicians that go on against guns. For instance the New York Times, among the many other anti gun messages it runs did a tally of every person that died in a holiday weekend because of guns. They have never run anything like that about alcohol deaths.

Here, again is an article common for it's type that often gets broadcast or published, and yes, what is depicted is terrible for the lives lost:

http://t.nbcnews.com/health/terrible-tally-500-children-dead-gunshots-every-year-7-500-8C11469222

500 under the age of 21 killed, with 7,500 sent to emergency rooms yearly

Here, are alcohol statistics affecting the same age group, but never announced by broadcasters or publishers with the same frequency the run advertisements glorifying alcohol use:

http://www.cdc.gov/alcohol/fact-sheets/underage-drinking.htm

Over 4,000 dead with 186,000 sent to emergency rooms yearly

Of course alcohol is all right because the advertisments have a half mumbled "drink responsibly" blurb at the end.

Again, this is all irrelevant to guns. This is a classic STRAW MAN ARGUMENT.