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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/13 19:35:06
Subject: Help with a non-annoying Jokaero army? 1750 pts
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Dakka Veteran
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Greetings,
Anybody else out there dying of exam stress? Because I am. As a bit of light relief, I'm messing around with converting up an army to go with one of my favourite little chunks of 40k background - the Jokaero (aka blinged-up space monkeys). When the Grey Knights codex first came out, jokaero spam lists could be seen all over the internet, consisting of something along the lines of "Coteaz and 50 Jokaero lol". This is boring list writing, and a boring playstyle of 'stand and shoot'. Its not what I want to do.
What I would like help with is creating an army list (using either codex grey knights or codex inquisition) which consists predominantly of jokaero, but may contain vehicles and other models. It needs some objective claiming potential, so it needs a unit that can get up close, and some to hang back. It needs to not instantly evaporate when the enemy returns fire, which could be accomplished with bullet catchers (acolytes) or crusaders for better invulnerable saves. Any non-jokaero will be proxied with other forms of converted space monkeys. I would quite like to win a few games, or at least not be trounced with regularity- can it be done?
(edit) Take three:
One more try - I can actually feel a beard growing with this list, which is not something anybody wants to see, believe me. Using inquisition/grey knight ally shenanigans, this list can be produced.
Coteaz – 100
Inquisitor, psyker, psyocculm – 85
Inquisitor, psyker – 55
4 Jokaero, 6 psyker, chimera – 255
4 Jokaero, 6 psyker, chimera – 255
5 Jokaero, chimera – 230
2 Jokaero, 3 Servitor w/ PC - 130
2 Jokaero, 3 Servitor w/ PC, - 130
2 Jokaero, 3 Servitor w/ PC - 130
ADL w/ quad gun – 100
1250
(Edit) Take two:
Coteaz - 100
Inquisitor, psyker, psyocculum - 80
Solodin w/hammer - 55
Solodin w/ hammer - 55
4 Jokaero, 1 psyker, chimera - 205
4 Jokaero, 1 psyker, Chimera - 205
4 Jokaero, 1 psyker Chimera - 205
4 Jokaero, 1 psyker, Chimera - 205
2 Jokaero, 3 servitors w/ PC, 5 Acolytes w/ 3 bolters - 145
2 Jokaero, 3 servitors w/ PC, 5 Acolytes w/ 3 bolters -145
ADL w/ quad gun - 100
Total - 1500
(Failed first attempt)
Coteaz - 100
Vindicare - 145
1 Jokaero, 2 crusaders, 3 DCA - 110
1 Jokaero, 2 crusaders, 3 DCA - 110
5 Jokaero, 3 Acolytes, bolters - 190
5 Jokaero, 3 Acolytes, bolters - 190
8 Jokaero , 4 acolytes, bolters - 300 (coteaz goes here)
Land Raider -255
Land Raider - 255
Aegis Defence line, quad gun - 100
1755 Total (may drop a bolter somewhere)
This is just a first attempt, feel free to tear it to pieces.
My main match-ups are grey knights (walking) blood angels (mech) tau (farsight/mech), space marines (walking) and space wolves (walking).
Also, any suggestions on modelling any of the jokaero counts-as would be more than great.
Any help Dakka?
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This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2014/01/14 02:19:56
Why must I always choose beween certain death and probable death. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/13 19:55:58
Subject: Help with a non-annoying Jokaero army? 1750 pts
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Mighty Chosen Warrior of Chaos
Sorry can't disclose.....infiltrating
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First off I enjoy the idea handily, one of the reasons I love the gk dex all the kooky things that can come out of it.
Second off the kinda sorta negatives, 40 guardsmen or worse bodies in 1750 is asking for trouble, raiders are nice for keeping some things safe, AT starts raining in because it's the only two pieces of armor and if it blows up the squad inside is practically toast
After that' thought, the thought of how will you output enough damage? Since your going to have issues with the survival / obj game, can the army atleast put the varied hurt on the enemy armies? As a base it looks like your whole armies fire power relies on 24 lascannons to carry the day, luckily theirs no horde armies on your above list or they would have a field day with this list .
I think the units you have need to be more closely observed to fit more clutch game roles, you definitely need something with staying power to hold objectives, and maybe another divination user to make those bs3 heavy weapons more effective, every miss will hurt big, would also be nice to see some dedicated Anti- infantry and such with only 1-2 monkeys in it for the possible range extend, etc
I like the vindicare but IMO he's rarely ever worth it, every miss or non 4+ roll is a wasted turn
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2014/01/13 19:57:10
My Armies :
VC
Warriors of Chaos
Dark Elves
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/13 20:01:42
Subject: Help with a non-annoying Jokaero army? 1750 pts
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Dakka Veteran
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All very valid points, thankyou for the helpful reply
I shall go back to the drawing board and update the first post with a slightly beefier list.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/13 20:07:28
Subject: Help with a non-annoying Jokaero army? 1750 pts
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Legendary Master of the Chapter
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Personally i think a good addition would be Plasma cannon servitors. 3 sitting in a Chimera with a Inquisitor who has the psycolium or even just div.
Land raider + DCA/Crusaders are ok, but the jokareo is kinda pointless in there.
Perhaps scraping a few acolytes for some plasma guns would be great too.
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Unit1126PLL wrote: Scott-S6 wrote:And yet another thread is hijacked for Unit to ask for the same advice, receive the same answers and make the same excuses.
Oh my god I'm becoming martel.
Send help!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/13 20:18:43
Subject: Help with a non-annoying Jokaero army? 1750 pts
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Tzeentch Aspiring Sorcerer Riding a Disc
Battle Barge Impossible Fortress
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Desubot has some excellent advice.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/13 20:28:38
Subject: Help with a non-annoying Jokaero army? 1750 pts
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Dakka Veteran
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A newer list for a lower point level, but the same level of jokaero. Solodins run distraction, chimeras bunker and shoot until objectives need claiming, non-mech units stay home and sit.
Coteaz - 100
Inquisitor, psyker, psyocculum - 80
Solodin w/hammer - 55
Solodin w/ hammer - 55
4 Jokaero, 1 psyker, chimera - 205
4 Jokaero, 1 psyker, Chimera - 205
4 Jokaero, 1 psyker Chimera - 205
4 Jokaero, 1 psyker, Chimera - 205
2 Jokaero, 3 servitors w/ PC, 5 Acolytes w/ 3 bolters - 145
2 Jokaero, 3 servitors w/ PC, 5 Acolytes w/ 3 bolters -145
ADL w/ quad gun - 100
Total - 1500
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2014/01/13 20:36:27
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/13 21:06:56
Subject: Help with a non-annoying Jokaero army? 1750 pts
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Legendary Master of the Chapter
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The single pysker is kinda pointless. there are no benfiits with the jokaero other than a small DTW buff.(if even that?)
Might as well shove a Bolter hench or a plasma hench to better utilize the jokaero.
make sure to keep the inquisitors in with the servitor to avoid mind lock.
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Unit1126PLL wrote: Scott-S6 wrote:And yet another thread is hijacked for Unit to ask for the same advice, receive the same answers and make the same excuses.
Oh my god I'm becoming martel.
Send help!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/13 21:19:16
Subject: Help with a non-annoying Jokaero army? 1750 pts
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Discriminating Deathmark Assassin
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Well I guess the psyker makes me squad of Joakeros twin linked lascannons, which is handy?
I think a hybrid of this with two dreadknighta would be awesome!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/13 21:24:06
Subject: Help with a non-annoying Jokaero army? 1750 pts
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Legendary Master of the Chapter
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I didnt think you could swap that pysker power for div
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Unit1126PLL wrote: Scott-S6 wrote:And yet another thread is hijacked for Unit to ask for the same advice, receive the same answers and make the same excuses.
Oh my god I'm becoming martel.
Send help!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/13 21:53:10
Subject: Help with a non-annoying Jokaero army? 1750 pts
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Dakka Veteran
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You can't swap the psyker power for div, but it is a -very- cheap large blast. Thinking about it, only one psyker shoots the power, so I could keep the 4 jokaero and increase the number of psykers in the chimera units...
As an interesting side note, the jokaero race probably does contain psykers, as their spy-fly technology (see dark heresy) needs psykers to operate it. Who knew?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/13 22:40:40
Subject: Help with a non-annoying Jokaero army? 1750 pts
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Well, space monkeys like chimeras to hide in so that's an idea.
Psykers are good, but need more to be better, if you took a chimera put in 3 monkeys and 6 psykers and an inquisitor you can get 3 TL lascannons and a TL S9 AP 1 large blast.
Where I believe henchmen have the biggest advantage is in the gun line, taking a agies with quad gun such as taking 10 monkeys with an inquisitor on the quad so he can TL the monkeys and still be able to intercept they also then have a 4+ cover and 5+ inv and as well as all having HF to overwatch with Henchmen with storm bolters can be devastating to low armour units, like the new nids!
Also for the poor vindicare everyone hates, he works well for me and on average will pen a LR with the 4 d6+3 armour pen in addition to removing inv saves due to wargear.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/13 22:58:06
Subject: Help with a non-annoying Jokaero army? 1750 pts
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I don't really like the idea of an all jokaero unit of ten, even with a 4+/5++; there's nothing there to absorb damage other than my 35 point monkeys. Plus, I'd rather have my inquisitors at the back in units with servitors.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/14 01:02:37
Subject: Re:Help with a non-annoying Jokaero army? 1750 pts
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Hurr! Ogryn Bone 'Ead!
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Enough of this monkey business!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/14 01:19:03
Subject: Help with a non-annoying Jokaero army? 1750 pts
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Dakka Veteran
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I was waiting for this image
Fortunately, my army will only have monkey models in it. And they shall fight the Imperium. As it should be.
IT WAS TERRA ALL ALONG Automatically Appended Next Post: One more try - I can actually feel a beard growing with this list, which is not something anybody wants to see, believe me. Using inquisition/grey knight ally shenanigans, this list can be produced.
Coteaz – 100
Inquisitor, psyker, psyocculm – 85
Inquisitor, psyker – 55
4 Jokaero, 6 psyker, chimera – 255
4 Jokaero, 6 psyker, chimera – 255
5 Jokaero, chimera – 230
2 Jokaero, 3 Servitor w/ PC - 130
2 Jokaero, 3 Servitor w/ PC, - 130
2 Jokaero, 3 Servitor w/ PC - 130
ADL w/ quad gun – 100
1250
That gives me - 19 Lascannons, 6 of which are twin-linked.
9 twin link plasma cannons
2 twin link autocannons
3 multi lasers
3 heavy flamers
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2014/01/14 02:11:14
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/14 04:36:57
Subject: Help with a non-annoying Jokaero army? 1750 pts
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Shunting Grey Knight Interceptor
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Drop vindicare get tech marine with osr so much las and large blast hahahaha
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A haiku, by Deadpool: I hate broccoli / And think it totally sucks / Why is it not meat? |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/14 07:32:11
Subject: Help with a non-annoying Jokaero army? 1750 pts
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Discriminating Deathmark Assassin
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Does Coatez have to stay alive to keep your war bands
Scoring?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/14 08:21:02
Subject: Help with a non-annoying Jokaero army? 1750 pts
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No, coteaz doesn't need to stay alive
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/14 15:29:11
Subject: Help with a non-annoying Jokaero army? 1750 pts
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Discriminating Deathmark Assassin
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I really want to play against this army. Looks like so much fun. Barrels of monkeys!
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