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There haven't been too many SoB threads around, so I thought I'd add my own list concepts for a mechanized army and see what peoples opinions are.

1000pts
HQ
Canoness - Rosarius, Combi-weapon

TROOPS
Battle sisters x5 - 2x flamer
Immolator - MM

Battle sisters x5 - 2x flamer
Immolator - MM

Battle sisters x5 - 2x flamer
Immolator - MM

Battle sisters x5 - 2x flamer
Immolator - MM

HEAVY
Exorcist - Storm Bolter
Exorcist - Storm Bolter
Exorcist - Storm Bolter

The list puts out quite a lot of quality str 8 fire for a 1000 points list, so is quite well off vs armour. The infantry have flamers to help push people off objectives and keep melee units away.
Overall, the canoness is not as good as jacobus, though is more survivable. The canoness however is cheaper, and jacobus brings little synergy to a mech heavy list.

1750pts
HQ
Canoness - Rosarius, Combi-weapon

Ecclesiarchy Priests x5 (1 in each immolator, besides the one with the canoness).

TROOPS
Battle sisters x5 - 2x flamer
Immolator - MM

Battle sisters x5 - 2x flamer
Immolator - MM

Battle sisters x5 - 2x flamer
Immolator - MM

Battle sisters x5 - 2x flamer
Immolator - MM

Battle sisters x5 - 2x flamer
Immolator - MM

Battle sisters x5 - 2x flamer
Immolator - MM

FAST ATTACK
Dominion Squad x5 - 4meltaguns, 1 combimelta
Immolator - MM

Dominion Squad x5 - 4meltaguns, 1 combimelta
Immolator - MM

HEAVY
Exorcist - Storm Bolter
Exorcist - Storm Bolter
Exorcist - Storm Bolter

For 1750 points 2 more troop choices have been added, and each troop choice will have a priest with them to make them more reliable.
2 Dominion squads in immolators have also been added.

The only real weakness of the list is mass flyers. But SoB have no real solution to this besides aegis and allies. A few flyers should be ok however, with all the TL MM's over the board, something must eventually hit.

Thoughts?

Rather than start a new thread, I'll just necro my old one, the question is exactly the same.

1000pts
HQ
Canoness - Book of St. Lucius

TROOPS
Battle sisters x5 - 1x flamer, 1x HF (<-- Canoness goes in here)
Repressor

Battle sisters x5 - 2x flamer
Immolator - MM

Battle sisters x5 - 2x flamer
Immolator - MM

Battle sisters x5 - 2x flamer
Immolator - MM

Battle sisters x5 - 2x flamer
Immolator - MM

HEAVY
Exorcist - Storm Bolter
Exorcist - Storm Bolte

Any advice from SoB veterans on how to make this list for 1000 points any better?
I've looked at putting Iquisitorial allies in, however the 1k points limit does make things quite tight.

At any points value, Jacobus or Celestine is a better buy.

Also, I would swap at least one BSS squad for a Dominion squad and probably ditch the Storm Bolters on the Exorcists.

Spitballling:

Celestine - 135
BSS with F/HF - 75
Repressor - 75?
BSS with F/HF in Immo - 135
BSS with F/HF in Rhino - 135
Dominion (4 melta in Immo with LH) - 195
Exorcist x2 - 250

1000 on the nose, iirc.

You lose one immo squad but get a lot more bang for your buck.

I'm really not sold on celestine. What would you do with her in that list? She can't go in any of the transports, so she would be forced to hide behind them for most of the game. Sure she comes back to life, but with all the str 6 stuff being thrown around it is quite easy to double her out.

Jacobus is great with larger squads of sisters, but he doesn't really add all that much to a mech list does he? If I was going to take him then I could drop either the storm bolters or 2 flamers from one squad & change the repressor to another immo to fit him in.

The storm bolters are to try and protect the exorcists against weapon destroyed results.

 Big Blind Bill wrote:
I'm really not sold on celestine. What would you do with her in that list? She can't go in any of the transports, so she would be forced to hide behind them for most of the game. Sur shee comes back to life, but with all the str 6 stuff being thrown around it is quite easy to double her out.

Jacobus is great with larger squads of sisters, but he doesn't really add all that much to a mech list does he? If I was going to take him then I could drop either the storm bolters or 2 flamers from one squad & change the repressor to another immo to fit him in.

The storm bolters are to try and protect the exorcists against weapon destroyed results.

At 1000 points, Celestine is gold. Hide her behind LOS blocker or a Immo/Repressor during deployment and then charge her forward. Any S6 being shot at her is not being shot at your vulnerable transports.

Jacobus, on the other hand, provides a 12" fearless bubble and a second act of faith. Not to mention war hymns, etc.

Adding 15 points to an exorcist to prevent one result on the penetration table is just bad. It is like taking extra armor on your rhinos.

But leaving her alone is an easy way to give away slay the warlord isn't it? I often go against wave serpents and tau missiles, both of which will ID her.

I suppose the fearless bubble on jacobus could be useful once the sisters disembark to hold objectives.

Storm bolters are only 5 points each, and still get to fire normally as the exorcist doesn't have an ordnance weapon. They aren't wasted points like extra armour.

I forgot they are only 5, still not my main choice.

Celestine gets back up and if you are worried about STW you can just choose not to roll to get her back up and you give away nothing.

Even if she does get shot down, she's still better than a canoness. If you don't like her though, Jacobus is still awesome.

 pretre wrote:
I forgot they are only 5, still not my main choice.

Celestine gets back up and if you are worried about STW you can just choose not to roll to get her back up and you give away nothing.

Even if she does get shot down, she's still better than a canoness. If you don't like her though, Jacobus is still awesome.

With Celestines power under the digital codex, she gets up automatically on your next turn if you pass the faith check.

OP:

For the 1750 list I would recommend dropping 1 Battle Sister squad and using the points to add 1 sister to the Dominions with a Simulacrum Imperialis, and add a Stormbolter to each Exorcist so they have a 50/50 chance of keeping the Exorcist launcher if you get a weapon destroyed result. Also, I have found Dozer Blades for my Exorcists and Dominion Immolators to be invaluable.

tremere47 wrote:

 pretre wrote:
I forgot they are only 5, still not my main choice.

Celestine gets back up and if you are worried about STW you can just choose not to roll to get her back up and you give away nothing.

Even if she does get shot down, she's still better than a canoness. If you don't like her though, Jacobus is still awesome.

With Celestines power under the digital codex, she gets up automatically on your next turn if you pass the faith check.

But you'll notice that you aren't required to roll the faith check.

 pretre wrote:

tremere47 wrote:

 pretre wrote:
I forgot they are only 5, still not my main choice.

Celestine gets back up and if you are worried about STW you can just choose not to roll to get her back up and you give away nothing.

Even if she does get shot down, she's still better than a canoness. If you don't like her though, Jacobus is still awesome.

With Celestines power under the digital codex, she gets up automatically on your next turn if you pass the faith check.

But you'll notice that you aren't required to roll the faith check.

true, but if you don't then she dies and you give up Slay The Warlord

tremere47 wrote:

 pretre wrote:

tremere47 wrote:

 pretre wrote:
I forgot they are only 5, still not my main choice.

Celestine gets back up and if you are worried about STW you can just choose not to roll to get her back up and you give away nothing.

Even if she does get shot down, she's still better than a canoness. If you don't like her though, Jacobus is still awesome.

With Celestines power under the digital codex, she gets up automatically on your next turn if you pass the faith check.

But you'll notice that you aren't required to roll the faith check.

true, but if you don't then she dies and you give up Slay The Warlord

Again, incorrect. read the power.

"If Saint Celestine is your Warlord, her Martyrdom special rule will only take effect, and she will only award Victory Points for objectives such as ‘Slay the Warlord’, if she fails her Act of Faith test or if she has been removed as a casualty for the second time."

So if you never attempt the roll, she doesn't count for VP, STW or Martyrdom.

Whilst RAW you seem to be correct, I'm pretty sure that's not the rules as intended. There is no explicit mention of being able to deny slay the warlord, only that it is not rewarded until 2 criteria are met. I'd put it down to an oversight on GW part, they never planned that someone wouldn't want their warlord to resurrect.

In serious games I don't think it would hold much weight, and in friendly ones I wouldn't even want to try it.

Ok I think this is the list I will go for:

1000pts
HQ
Jacobus

TROOPS
Battle sisters x5 - 2x flamer
Immolator - MM

Battle sisters x5 - 2x flamer
Immolator - MM

Battle sisters x5 - 2x flamer
Immolator - MM

Battle sisters x5 - 2x flamer
Immolator - MM

Battle sisters x5 - 2x flamer
Immolator - MM

HEAVY
Exorcist
Exorcist

At higher points I will add another exorcist and immolator squad, and then fill the rest up with dominions.

That looks solid and we'll have to agree to disagree on Miraculous Intervention. I would really try to fit doms in that list (5 troops choices is overkill at 1000) but ymmv.

I'm thinking about adding the inquisition to the list, like so:

Corteaz - Warlord

Inquisitor - Hellrifle, 3 servo skulls

3x acolyte, 3 x PC servitors (Corteaz & other inquisitor go in here)
Chimera - 2x HB, psybolt ammo

3x acolyte,
Chimera - 2x HB, psybolt ammo

3x acolyte,
Chimera - 2x HB, psybolt ammo

EDIT: Inquisitor Storm bolters are 5 points more expensive than the sisters codex. so I've removed them and used the spare 15 points to give the inquisitor a hellrifle.

Canoness

Battle sisters x5 - 2 flamer
Immolator - TL MM

Battle sisters x5 - 2 flamer
Immolator - TL MM

Exorcist
Exorcist

Corteaz would go with the larger henchmen squad in a chimera, and use his prescience to buff plasmacannons. They act as a deterrent against drop pods and the range of the plasma cannons also help keep the inquisitors out of harms way.
The chimeras put out a good amount of medium strength fire per turn, whilst the sisters can push forward on objectives and deal with armour with the exorcists.

After some more thinking I've finally decided upon this:

Corteaz - Warlord

Canoness

3x {3x acolyte with bolters bolters}
{Chimera - 2x HB, psybolt ammo}

3x {Battle sisters x5}
{Immolator - TL MM}

2x {Exorcist}

Not as many toys in the other list, but I couldn't resist putting down 8 tanks at 1000 points.
Higher points levels would see the inquisitor squads get larger, and have plasmaguns.
The sisters would get more immolators and another exorcist, also the squads would get 2x flamers each.

Wait... How can Coteaz be the warlord? They're the allied detachment, after all. And if you take inq as primary then you can't take two exorcists.

...unless I'm missing something?

I'm afraid you are missing a paragraph from the Codex inquisitor book:

If your army includes an Inquisitorial detachment, you can nominate one
Inquisitor (including Inquisitor Coteaz or Inquisitor Karamazov) to be your
army’s Warlord, instead of a character from your primary detachment.

I'm of the opinion that every SOB list needs priests in order to be competitive. Our infantry is overmatched, so we need to make the best use of every bit of force multiplication that we have.

androcles138 wrote:
I'm of the opinion that every SOB list needs priests in order to be competitive. Our infantry is overmatched, so we need to make the best use of every bit of force multiplication that we have.

In low point Immo spam lists I'm not too sure though, there is not much to multiply. Adding a priest increases the cost of the squad by 20%, but only gives 5 girls fearless. If you have to check morale then you've normally lost 2 girls anyway, so I'm not convinced of spending 25 points to keep 36 points of models on the board. Also they add no ranged damage output, I'd rather spend those points on another exorcist or immolator squad.

In blob sister armies though I totally agree. I might try this list until I get enough tanks to play a full mech list:

Jacobus

1x priest

Battle sisters x20 - Heavy bolter
Battle sisters x20 - Heavy bolter

Exorcist
Exorcist
Exorcist

This way the priests are giving 20 sisters fearless, and their powers have much more to multiply.