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Beast of Nurgle



New Jersey

Wondering if anyone has run one of these or if anyone has some ideas? Seems like it'd be interesting, but I'm unsure if it would be worth it.
Dropping 18 plague marines/Typhus turn 2 and assaulting would be kind of hilarious.

Rules: http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Downloads/Product/PDF/K/Kharybdis.pdf

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I'm trying to get my buddy who plays CSM to get or make one of these guys, they seem pretty gnarly.

And they drop turn 1, can assault turn 2.


 
   
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New Jersey

Hmmm I just have read the rules wrong.
Im tryin to think of a way to build one, things are huge.

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Frightening Flamer of Tzeentch




Well you have to do a few things before you're ready to play with the awesomeness that is the Kharybdis.

1) Buy a gun

2) Rob a bank

3) Buy the model

4) Paint it up while in prison.

Honestly as exciting as it is to get a drop pod, the model just isn't worth it :( 20 models is nice, but what has always made drop pods amazing is droppings a lot of them all at once to throw off your opponent and give you a chance to inflict some gnarly damage on key units in your opponents armies. I don't see anyone coughing up that kind of money to field three or more of these beasts, so I don't see them getting a lot of love.

Money aside, I don't see much of a use for them. We can't combat squad so all 20 models will need to shoot at the same target. Now you're going to have to suffer a lot of return fire before you can tangle up with your chosen target(s) into assault, so you'll need to be hardy. 20 Plague marines would be decent for surviving a turn of shooting and subsequently tar-pitting the backfield units. This can allow you to position the rest of your army around the table and shoot whatever makes its' way out of the assault.

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GreyChaos wrote:

Money aside, I don't see much of a use for them.
It was designed for 30k, where the fluff and goal of it is running giant mobs. IE: Legions.

Also it's an excellent way to mobilize Primarchs. They tend to be a bit of a foot slog otherwise and take up too much room being Very Bulky to field them with much support in most normal land raiders.

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New Jersey

I can see this being nice also running a fast moving hard list like flying circus, just wouldn't be flying circus anymore... Kinda.
Daemons, csm allied in to make them choose between the blob dropped on thier lines or the big nasties on their way.

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 SRSFACE wrote:
GreyChaos wrote:

Money aside, I don't see much of a use for them.
It was designed for 30k, where the fluff and goal of it is running giant mobs. IE: Legions.

Also it's an excellent way to mobilize Primarchs. They tend to be a bit of a foot slog otherwise and take up too much room being Very Bulky to field them with much support in most normal land raiders.


Really? I understand it was "designed for 30k", but the link provided at the top of this post pertains to the existence of these vehicles into the 41st millennium and their continued use by Chaos Warbands. Also you'll note the OP originally started the post by asking about the vehicle in relation to Typhus and Plague Marines. This led to my comments about the vehicle having little use since there are few models, in Codex: Chaos Space Marines, that need a drop pod at the price of this behemoth. Regular marines can deep strike their entire army for the same price we would have to pay for this beast. Add to that the fact we can't divide our forces once they disembark so we can't even pull off a painful alpha strike.

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Seems to me a good alternative to crappy land raiders. For about the same point cost, you get turn 1 deployment, assault grenades, and some pretty good covering fire (those 10x str 6 pinning shots at different targets have the potential to wreck havok), and if the thing survives (av12 not so hot, but 5hp is) it can ferry other units around, and/or become a pretty damn formidable gunship in its own right. Keep in mind the units don't -HAVE- to disembark that first turn if they don't want to. They can chill out while the claw does its heat-blast and pinning shots, and add an AV12 5HP safety shell to give them a bit of survivability (combine with other priority targets, durh), then bust out and assault next turn. Also, as a hovering flyer coming in from deep strike (moving at cruising speed), I'd posit that it also gets a junk save the turn that it arrives.

If you're already sinking 250ish points on a raider, this seems like a much better ride for the role. Stick 19 marines and a lord, or 9 termies and a t-lord, and support them with other fast assault elements like fiends, spawn, bikes, princes, or allied daemon hounds and other critters for a turn 2 assault. An enemy army would be hard pressed to deal with that amount of trash in their face so quickly. I'd rather keep it cheap, because putting typhus + retinue + dredclaw will end up being like half your points. Spread the love around.
It has a pretty different role from SM pods, which are more surgical strike tools, dropping in small suicide squads to kill specific targets. The claw is for cramming a giant angry crew of marines down the opponents gob.

The dollar cost of the thing is pretty stupid though. If I was ever going to field one, I'd definitely convert it out of a jacked up drop pod, maybe with heldrake wings for claws.

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How about 10 CSM termies? I'm not a CSM player but I recall people complaining about the low transport capacity of their LRs. Tadaa! Turn 2 assault guaranteed + grenades.

Sounds like a pretty solid LR alternative to me.
   
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New Jersey

Termies would be a good choice.

I am almost thinking about using two of these (proxy with a friend, dat pricetag) to wipe troops from existence. Drop them on troops, they get hit. Next turn jump out with flamers, plasmas and what have you then charge. Dead squad. Most lists run 3-4 troops for 1500pts, so if your pods and squads cant wipe them out, the heldrake and finish the job.
Any strategy in that or am I rambling?

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