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There are a few weapons usable by Monstrous Creatures that are capable of inflicting Instant Death. Some such as the Axe of Khorne, (Chaos Daemons) and the Reaper of Obliterax (Tyranids) cause Instant Death on a To Wound roll of 6. A Balesword (Greater Daemonic Reward for Nurgle Daemons) causes Instant Death on any Wound.

My question is how this applies to Vector Strikes?

The rules for the Axe of Khorne state "Any To Wound rolls of 6 made with this weapon have the Instant Death special rule"
The rules for the Reaper of Obliterax are the same as the Axe of Khorne
The Balesword: "Unsaved Wounds inflicted by an Attack with this special rule automatically inflict Instant Death, regardless of the victim's Toughness"


Would any of these work with Vector Strikes? Would all or none of them work?

The vector strike rules designates what the attack Strength and AP are. They are only modified with special permission such as the Hive Crone special rule.

Vector Strikes do not use any weapon, nor any special rules.

Yonush wrote:
The vector strike rules designates what the attack Strength and AP are. They are only modified with special permission such as the Hive Crone special rule.

I'm not asking about Strength and AP values. Those are not in dispute at all. Unmodified Strength and AP3 unless an explicit exception is called out.


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Nevermind, I should have read the FAQ a little more carefully. From memory I thought only Strength was unmodified by weapons or wargear.

The FAQ pretty clearly states that Vector Strike attacks do not benefit in any way from the model's special rules, weapons or wargear.

You don't use the weapons special rules because you're not using the weapon to attack. You don't get Instant Death from the Axe when using a shooting weapon do you?

VS is not a close combat attack. It doesn't use the word "attack" anywhere. You get hits at a set strength and AP because it doesn't care what weapon you're armed with. There is no permission to declare a weapon.

While on topic of Vector strike.

A friend with a DP cast iron Arm, he then gets +1D3 S, now he make a Vector strike, he says that since he had +3 on the dice, he nows make his Vector strikes at S 9.

Now i remind him that Vector strikes are made at base strength, so no +3, then another guy pops up and say that he still get a +3 from iron arm, insisting that iron arms modify the base strenght of the model, where i comprehend that it is just an addition to the S and thus like any modificators, its added to the Base strength and it doesn't change the base strength, so the Vector strike is still the base S of the DP.

But he kept pestering us with this for a good while.

So was i wrong or not in the end?

 Slayer le boucher wrote:
While on topic of Vector strike.

A friend with a DP cast iron Arm, he then gets +1D3 S, now he make a Vector strike, he says that since he had +3 on the dice, he nows make his Vector strikes at S 9.

Now i remind him that Vector strikes are made at base strength, so no +3, then another guy pops up and say that he still get a +3 from iron arm, insisting that iron arms modify the base strenght of the model, where i comprehend that it is just an addition to the S and thus like any modificators, its added to the Base strength and it doesn't change the base strength, so the Vector strike is still the base S of the DP.

But he kept pestering us with this for a good while.

So was i wrong or not in the end?

VS uses the S of the model in its stat line. Therefore that DP would VS at S6.

VS specifically states "unmodified" strength, not "stat-line strength" or "base strength".

Or it does at least in the English version, is the wording different in others?

As above. If you are modifying the strength of the model (and you are, in case there is any doubt there) then you ignorte that modifier for VS

 Quanar wrote:
VS specifically states "unmodified" strength, not "stat-line strength" or "base strength".

Or it does at least in the English version, is the wording different in others?

Unmodified, stat-line and base all mean exactly the same thing in this instance.

 PrinceRaven wrote:
Unmodified, stat-line and base all mean exactly the same thing in this instance.

One of the people in Slayer's post claimed Iron Arm modified the "base strength", so I included the term anyway, along with the more relevant, un-ambiguous "Unmodified".

But yes, fair enough point.