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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/23 23:26:18
Subject: Orky fliers questions
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Wicked Wych With a Whip
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Im trying to understand the point of the 3 ork fliers
From what i gather. And please correct if im wrong
Dakkajet: lots of shots best anti flyer
Burna bommer: anti infintry
Blitzbomma:anti tank
thanks for the help and info
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/23 23:37:55
Subject: Orky fliers questions
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Flashy Flashgitz
Canberra, Down Under
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Dakkajets are really just the best at everything, in my opinion.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/24 00:01:25
Subject: Re:Orky fliers questions
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Ork Boy Hangin' off a Trukk
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If you play armies with a lot of vehicles, MC or 3+ armor the id go dakkajet. I use the burna bommer a lot of the time to harrass scouts and other light armor scoring units. Those skorcha missles and bombs can be devestating to a squad when they hit.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/24 01:55:43
Subject: Orky fliers questions
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Speed Drybrushing
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The Blitz is honestly a beer and pretzels plane, you have a chance of killing yourself and you only get 2 of these bombs.
The burna is good for crowd control, while you have missiles. Don't count on it being a war winner. Should be dead killy vs Guard.
Dakkajet is the dread and butter of Ork shooting. It is TL, BS3 (For a pathetic 10 points), and a free 1" of movement if you desire with RPJ which does not count towards moving super sonic or flat out. On your WAAGH! turn they even shoot twice! That means 18 TL shots. I pop rhinos all day long calling WAAGH! with a pair of roving jets. Then I call WAAAGH! again later with my warphead. Much teeth grinding ensues while I scream WAAGH! in the store and keep going 'ERE WE GO! when something down right Orky happens.
I once sent a vendetta into the dirt thanks to my Jets and I even turned to my allied nid player and told him. After pointing at the wreck.
"You see dat? I want dat goin' right inta ur' boyz."
He was beside himself with laughter. The vendetta blew up in the sky but nothing happened beyond my Dakkajet earning its first ever aerial kill.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/24 03:27:45
Subject: Re:Orky fliers questions
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Dakka Veteran
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I have ran all three and have found that while the dakkajet is the best overall, the Burna-bomber is extremely helpful if you find yourself in need of flying off the table and want to still do something. Bombing runs aren't the most effective for troop removal but do provide an extra option on turn 3 or 4 when you want to fly off.
Blitz is just good old fashion ork fun and randomness....it's definitely the narrative option in that just about every game will leave you a story to tell about how the roll went great for one of the two players.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/24 04:38:51
Subject: Orky fliers questions
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Screamin' Stormboy
Stuck in wit da boyz
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I find that the ork flyers don't bring anything to the table that other units cant do as good or better.
I am very disappointed with ork flyers and I have stopped running them even if I have extra points to spend.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/24 05:00:48
Subject: Orky fliers questions
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Wicked Wych With a Whip
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there is something to be said for the great game of Orkyness
thanks all
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/24 12:22:51
Subject: Re:Orky fliers questions
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Remember that the orks have a poor anti air.
The Dakka jet provides some nice anti air but also have the option to pop light tanks and infantery.
The Waagh rule is rather pointless atm for the rest of the army, so feel free to blow it on the jet.
Usually I Waagh on turn two when the Jet comes in to make a nice alpha strike to take down some enemy fliers.
For some strange reason GW decided that they only need str 6 and some other fliers have AV 12.
The two other fliers are rather pointless imo.
The rest of the army has enough anti infantery for the burna jet to be usefull.
Also it costs more then the Dakka jet and preformes worse.
The Bomba isnt really that usefull either, if you are lucky you can kill a Rhino.
But don't hope for much. Its unreliable, cost much and doesn't have much firepower.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/24 12:40:59
Subject: Orky fliers questions
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Andy Hoare
Turku, Finland
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The Burna-Bomma has that nice Ignores Cover special rule and AP4 on missiles and bombs too, so I imagine it can be nice at removing fire warriors, cultists and what not from objectives.
The Dakkajet is amazing, it'll certainly make you happy because it's so good at killing things.
The Blitza-Bomma really needs to be S8 AP2. Now it just doesn't do anything even the rare times it hits. Or even S10. Orky stuff is about having the ability to blow yourself or the enemy up, but the Blitza-Bomma is more like blow himself up or slightly inconvenience the enemy.
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"Eagles may soar high, but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines." - Lord Borak
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/25 05:47:32
Subject: Orky fliers questions
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Disguised Speculo
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Mali wrote:Im trying to understand the point of the 3 ork fliers
From what i gather. And please correct if im wrong
Dakkajet: lots of shots best anti flyer
Burna bommer: anti infintry
Blitzbomma:anti tank
thanks for the help and info
Dakkajet; Good vs everything but heavy armour, great vs flyers
Burnabomma; situationally good vs large blobs, needs missiles to be anywhere near dakkajets effectiveness which would make it 50% more expensive
Blitza; Good vs nothing. For serious
The only reason to take Burnas is in a dreadmob list so you can take six aircraft (bommas are heavy support!), and the only reason to take blitzas is because you've homeruled them to be better
BunkerBob wrote:The Blitz is honestly a beer and pretzels plane, you have a chance of killing yourself and you only get 2 of these bombs.
To be a beer and pretzels unit it needs to be fun.
Getting it all the way across the board only to drop a S7 AP4 'anti tank' small blast bomb is a joke. Even if its armourbane, it gets plus nothing on the damage chart.
Meanwhile the Necron bomber drops large blasts instead of small, S10 instead of S7, and AP1 instead of AP4, with zero chance of suicide instead of any chance.
The hell were they thinking??
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/25 08:09:25
Subject: Orky fliers questions
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Irked Necron Immortal
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They were thinking Orks are Orks, not that it does much good for model usability....
I've only ever seen Dakkajets fielded. They've never impressed me. It does NOT help that all my Necron vehicles are sporting 13 AV, relegating the Dakkajet to firing at some infantry which just gtg for 2+ cover. Then the Tesla Destructors rip it form the sky....
I feel like kind of a jerk when playing my crons sometimes...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/26 16:39:42
Subject: Re:Orky fliers questions
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Tough-as-Nails Ork Boy
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The thing about the Dakkajet is that if you take the flyboss upgrade it gets BS4 on ground units.. which for orks is pretty amazing. So I like fielding one.
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"Nothing good can ever come from staying with normal people." -Harry McDougal (Outlaw Star)
"Hey, I don't make the rules, I just twist them to my purpose." -Celia (Order Of The Stick) |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/26 17:33:32
Subject: Re:Orky fliers questions
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Battlefortress Driver with Krusha Wheel
Norway (Oslo)
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crazyfoxdemon wrote:The thing about the Dakkajet is that if you take the flyboss upgrade it gets BS4 on ground units.. which for orks is pretty amazing. So I like fielding one.
Where do you get this from? Flyboss only let's you use strafing run's BS3 on skimmers and flyers aswell.
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Waagh like a bawz
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Wood Elves 2600 points, 6/4/0 (W/L/D)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/26 18:04:18
Subject: Re:Orky fliers questions
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Gargantuan Gargant
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crazyfoxdemon wrote:The thing about the Dakkajet is that if you take the flyboss upgrade it gets BS4 on ground units.. which for orks is pretty amazing. So I like fielding one.
Actually Flyboss only makes the dakkajet BS3 for skimmers, jetbikes and flyers and swooping FMC. It doesn't stack with Strafing run which only increases the Dakkajet's BS by 1 for ground targets that aren't part of the Flyboss' upgrade's unit groups. So Flyboss essentially just makes it BS3 for all targets.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/26 20:22:30
Subject: Re:Orky fliers questions
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Tough-as-Nails Ork Boy
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phatonic wrote: crazyfoxdemon wrote:The thing about the Dakkajet is that if you take the flyboss upgrade it gets BS4 on ground units.. which for orks is pretty amazing. So I like fielding one.
Where do you get this from? Flyboss only let's you use strafing run's BS3 on skimmers and flyers aswell.
Ah.. misread it then.. Well.. I feel like a dumbass now then.
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"Nothing good can ever come from staying with normal people." -Harry McDougal (Outlaw Star)
"Hey, I don't make the rules, I just twist them to my purpose." -Celia (Order Of The Stick) |
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