Forum adverts like this one are shown to any user who is not logged in. Join us by filling out a tiny 3 field form and you will get your own, free, dakka user account which gives a good range of benefits to you: No adverts like this in the forums anymore. Times and dates in your local timezone. Full tracking of what you have read so you can skip to your first unread post, easily see what has changed since you last logged in, and easily see what is new at a glance. Email notifications for threads you want to watch closely. Being a part of the oldest wargaming community on the net. If you are already a member then feel free to login now.

Hey dakka, a friend's birthday is coming up and I'm thinging of eBay-fungi him a sorcerer in terminator armour. He's always getting slaughtered by my termies so I want to have a loadout suitable, the only deffinates are that it will have the Mark of khorne or nurgle, and terminator armour. Help please?
Thanks in advance.

If it's a sorcerer, it won't be able to have the mark of khorne!!

I derped.

Mark of Nurgle for T5 so he doesn't p0wned by power fists... Probably a force axe as well so he can cut through their 2+ saves.

There isnt really much hope.

Chaos terminators are just different, they do not serve the same role as imperial terminators and if you try to make them something they're not they're going to disappoint you.

If you want them to take out imperial terminators their best bet is using combi-plasma spam to wipe out 2 or so of them in rapid fire before the assault even begins.

As for the sorcerer, biomancy is the way to go here. Smite is great AP2, iron arm endurance and warp speed are great CC abilites. Telepathy is the best though if you think you can stay out of CC

Nurgle powers give you a 2/3 shot (with ML3) at an AP2 large blast.

Tzeentch tree has a nice Ap2 Poisoned(4+) template witchire, but its only STR 1 so you'll be wounding with the poison, which only will wound on a 4+. With storm shields, this power could be pretty useless.
Mark of tzeentch also is nice for a better save against those thunderhammers.

The big question here, that I really shouldve asked earlier, is what is your loadout for your loyalist terminators? If they all have storm shields, the answer is more bullets. Buying high ap weapons will just be a point sink as they will still get a 3++ save. If they do not, the answer is larger bullets (Higher AP weapons like plasma)

Loyalist terminators
8x stormbolter, powefist
1x assault cannon, chainfist.
1x flamer, chainfist.
Grey knight paladins
1x psycannon, sword
2x 2halberds, stormbolter
1x staff, chainfist.
1x halberd, banner.

 the shrouded lord wrote:
Loyalist terminators
8x stormbolter, powefist
1x assault cannon, chainfist.
1x flamer, chainfist.
Grey knight paladins
1x psycannon, sword
2x 2halberds, stormbolter
1x staff, chainfist.
1x halberd, banner.

Ok, so the MoT will serve better against the powerfists than MoN. 20 Powerfists will cause 7.4 deaths to nurgle terminators, and 5.6 deaths to tzeentch ones.

They will want to take powerfists and combi-plasmas to kill yours. By not taking storm shields and thunder hammers you give him a much better chance, as chaos termies do not have much in ways of mass of fire. They are elite units.

You say he has trouble dealing with your terminators, how so? Are you shooting and then assaulting into his units? Do you stay at range and he is just unable to deal enough damage? Since you aren't using stormshields the best counter is to shoot you with AP2 weapons because you'll only have a 5++ to rely upon.

A Vindicator would work pretty well against you as well. The plate will typically hit 3 models and kill two of them, and he can of course shock you with Rhinos to force you into a tighter grouping to increase the numbers. A terminator Sorcerer isn't a very good counter to terminators. He won't ignore your armor saves in melee unless he wants to strike at the same initiative as you, and at range he can only cast a single shooting power unless he takes Ahriman. What a sorcerer CAN do well is take some support powers to bolster the rest of the army. I wouldn't give him a mark though, better to leave him undivided and give yourself another chance to roll on the BRB trees.

Maybe just drown them in bullets and plazma/melta?
Chaos termies can take cheap combi-weapons so they mustn't have any problems of downing a 5++