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The Report

This was the first time the Ork player had fielded his list. He is a seasoned Grey Knights player so wanted to see how a simple green tied would do next to a firing line.

750 Tau Empire


750 Green Tide

Why an ion accelerator over HBC vs a horde army?

That was a pretty harsh match up. Especially with a Riptide at 750 pts. Was more a shooting gallery than a game in my opinion, and probably one of the best match ups for Tau to face. Pretty sure that was a 30 minute game or less, lol.

Course, I sold my Tau. Local players weren't too receiving of the army itself. :/

Still took about an hour but was my first time playing orks lol. I knew the tau were shooty but wasn't quite prepared for that... actually rolling emperors will made me second guess my strategy to just storm across the board, as i wanted to keep my object somehow. Ended up being a bad gameplan/time haha. But you gotta start and learn from somewhere.

Krucho1986 wrote:
Why an ion accelerator over HBC vs a horde army?

I build lists and all come it. Staging is no fun unless the other person does. In larger games, my Riptides would be more suited for AA or taking out other MCs/hordes of power armor. All in all, it didn't matter, haha.


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 CleverAntics wrote:
That was a pretty harsh match up. Especially with a Riptide at 750 pts. Was more a shooting gallery than a game in my opinion, and probably one of the best match ups for Tau to face. Pretty sure that was a 30 minute game or less, lol.

Course, I sold my Tau. Local players weren't too receiving of the army itself. :/

Haha, Tau is my competitive army. I pretty much bring it out for revenge (if my other armies lose) or a first time against new player/new army to "beat it once".


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cirons wrote:
Still took about an hour but was my first time playing orks lol. I knew the tau were shooty but wasn't quite prepared for that... actually rolling emperors will made me second guess my strategy to just storm across the board, as i wanted to keep my object somehow. Ended up being a bad gameplan/time haha. But you gotta start and learn from somewhere.

Haha, next time we'll swap lists and replay

Playing rapetide, broadsides and markers vs sluggaboyz? U could have just not played at all. No shootaboyz, no wagonz, no biker nobz, no lootas, no lobbas, what's the point?

You seem like a nice fellow..

Against new player/new army "To beat it once"... Disgusting..

How about actually going against players with lists that match in power level, instead of this kind of sucker punch?? Why even post this "Battle"report, only thing it does is show what type of player you are..

This is why attendance diminishes at the FLG.

I have to agree, this list was unnecessarily harsh against a list involving a Green Tide where the Ork player was clearly inexperienced since anyone running a green tide list knows that taking a Big Mek w/KFF is almost mandatory. If you were running a list like this couldn't you have at least helped him with his army composition so that he would have some sort of fighting chance? Why play a game when the result is already spelled out before you?

Drachoff wrote:
You seem like a nice fellow..

Against new player/new army "To beat it once"... Disgusting..

How about actually going against players with lists that match in power level, instead of this kind of sucker punch?? Why even post this "Battle"report, only thing it does is show what type of player you are..

I don't know, I have posted other reports that are fair, even the 2nd game of the evening against the same player (different armies). To say I'm a nice fellow then call me disgusting and "the type of player you are" is pretty silly and immature. Time to look in the mirror.


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 Red Corsair wrote:
This is why attendance diminishes at the FLG.

I'm sorry but one game does not ruin it for everyone. The other player wanted the challenge. He's played Grey Knights for a while and wanted to see. Before you post, think about the other possibilities for the match.


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 Grimskul wrote:
I have to agree, this list was unnecessarily harsh against a list involving a Green Tide where the Ork player was clearly inexperienced since anyone running a green tide list knows that taking a Big Mek w/KFF is almost mandatory. If you were running a list like this couldn't you have at least helped him with his army composition so that he would have some sort of fighting chance? Why play a game when the result is already spelled out before you?

See above, he is not a new player but just trying Orks for the first time and wanted the challenge. Aside from the assumptions, I did talk him through it and did talk some strategy. He even laughs at these comments noting "the pitchforks are out".

Judge it how you want but I've posted many other reports that were fairly even and fun to play and read. Lighten up.

Yeah I just want to reiterate, my initial plan was to send all 91 across the field, when we rolled emperors will I only half-heartedly sent my boyz and the result was what you saw. If i woulda lined up red-rover style and stormed across there would still be a good number of boyz to potentially multi assault.

I was really paranoid about getting large blasted but that seemed to be a non-issue in retrospect though i'm sure something else would have reared it's ugly head, when everyone is shoulda to shoulda.

Ninja spelling.

Wow, that was just.... wow.

The nerve to show up to a 750 point game against an inexperienced Ork player with that list...

Meh, could have been worse. It could have been triptide at 750.

@HQ [ 1 ]

Ethereal (50pt.)

@Elites [ 3 ]

XV104 Riptide (195pt.) Riptide battlesuit; Multi-tracker; Blacksun filter; Riptide shield generator; Ion accelerator; Twin-linked smart missile system; Early warning override; Vectored retro-thrusters;

XV104 Riptide (190pt.) Riptide battlesuit; Multi-tracker; Blacksun filter; Riptide shield generator; Ion accelerator; Twin-linked smart missile system; Early warning override;

XV104 Riptide (205pt.) Riptide battlesuit; Multi-tracker; Blacksun filter; Riptide shield generator; Heavy burst cannon; Twin-linked smart missile system; Early warning override; Velocity tracker;

@Troops [ 2 ]

6x - Fire Warrior Team (54pt.)
> 6x - Fire Warrior (9pt.); Combat armour; Photon grenades; Pulse rifle;

6x - Fire Warrior Team (54pt.)
> 6x - Fire Warrior (9pt.); Combat armour; Photon grenades; Pulse rifle;


Thanks for posting.

Nevermind wrote:

Drachoff wrote:
You seem like a nice fellow..

Against new player/new army "To beat it once"... Disgusting..

How about actually going against players with lists that match in power level, instead of this kind of sucker punch?? Why even post this "Battle"report, only thing it does is show what type of player you are..

I don't know, I have posted other reports that are fair, even the 2nd game of the evening against the same player (different armies). To say I'm a nice fellow then call me disgusting and "the type of player you are" is pretty silly and immature. Time to look in the mirror.

You played the Eldar in that report, right? Because, uh, that doesn't really support your argument, the Eldar list is also very strong.

 ImotekhTheStormlord wrote:
Meh, could have been worse. It could have been triptide at 750.

@HQ [ 1 ]

Ethereal (50pt.)

@Elites [ 3 ]

XV104 Riptide (195pt.) Riptide battlesuit; Multi-tracker; Blacksun filter; Riptide shield generator; Ion accelerator; Twin-linked smart missile system; Early warning override; Vectored retro-thrusters;

XV104 Riptide (190pt.) Riptide battlesuit; Multi-tracker; Blacksun filter; Riptide shield generator; Ion accelerator; Twin-linked smart missile system; Early warning override;

XV104 Riptide (205pt.) Riptide battlesuit; Multi-tracker; Blacksun filter; Riptide shield generator; Heavy burst cannon; Twin-linked smart missile system; Early warning override; Velocity tracker;

@Troops [ 2 ]

6x - Fire Warrior Team (54pt.)
> 6x - Fire Warrior (9pt.); Combat armour; Photon grenades; Pulse rifle;

6x - Fire Warrior Team (54pt.)
> 6x - Fire Warrior (9pt.); Combat armour; Photon grenades; Pulse rifle;


Thanks for posting.

Yea, it could have. Thanks for a non-condescending post.


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Lanlaorn wrote:

Nevermind wrote:

Drachoff wrote:
You seem like a nice fellow..

Against new player/new army "To beat it once"... Disgusting..

How about actually going against players with lists that match in power level, instead of this kind of sucker punch?? Why even post this "Battle"report, only thing it does is show what type of player you are..

I don't know, I have posted other reports that are fair, even the 2nd game of the evening against the same player (different armies). To say I'm a nice fellow then call me disgusting and "the type of player you are" is pretty silly and immature. Time to look in the mirror.

You played the Eldar in that report, right? Because, uh, that doesn't really support your argument, the Eldar list is also very strong.

So because I've played both Eldar and Tau since 4th, my argument is invalid and I'm a horrible player for playing in 6th? I could have brought multiple Wave Serpents, I could have brought a Wraithknight. I did not. I think it's funny how butthurt you are about something so insignificant and misinterpreted.


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herpguy wrote:
Wow, that was just.... wow.

The nerve to show up to a 750 point game against an inexperienced Ork player with that list...

Insightful.

Lanlaorn wrote:

You played the Eldar in that report, right? Because, uh, that doesn't really support your argument, the Eldar list is also very strong.

I really don't see the issue with it. I think you are confusing a very strong list with a very strong codex. Eldar are pretty hard to mess up with as long as you avoid the stinkers. The list isn't remotely spammy, it doesn't min/max like it could have (2 Wraithknights, 3 Wave Serpents/Laughatarch... etc.), it is just a well-balanced list with a powerful codex.

Drachoff wrote:
You seem like a nice fellow..

Against new player/new army "To beat it once"... Disgusting..

How about actually going against players with lists that match in power level, instead of this kind of sucker punch?? Why even post this "Battle"report, only thing it does is show what type of player you are..

Don't insult people for bringing the lists they do without understanding the possible reasons and motivations. It was said that the ork player wanted a challenge.

This is a very detailed and well-made batrep that obviously took time to write. Don't dismiss it because you dislike the lists.

Lanlaorn wrote:

Nevermind wrote:

Drachoff wrote:
You seem like a nice fellow..

Against new player/new army "To beat it once"... Disgusting..

How about actually going against players with lists that match in power level, instead of this kind of sucker punch?? Why even post this "Battle"report, only thing it does is show what type of player you are..

I don't know, I have posted other reports that are fair, even the 2nd game of the evening against the same player (different armies). To say I'm a nice fellow then call me disgusting and "the type of player you are" is pretty silly and immature. Time to look in the mirror.

You played the Eldar in that report, right? Because, uh, that doesn't really support your argument, the Eldar list is also very strong.

So because I've played both Eldar and Tau since 4th, my argument is invalid and I'm a horrible player for playing in 6th? I could have brought multiple Wave Serpents, I could have brought a Wraithknight. I did not. I think it's funny how butthurt you are about something so insignificant and misinterpreted.

Calm down, show me where I said you're a horrible player, a bad person or that I'm "butthurt". I agree with Imotekh that you're not min/maxing, but you can't deny you took the powerful units of powerful codices against players with less optimal lists from less competitive codices.

It's not like you're playing Eldar with Banshees and Striking Scorpions or Tau with Vespids and Stealth Suits, y'know? I'm not condemning you and I like your well made battle reports, I'm just saying the only reasonable response I can see here is "haha yea I guess I really ran them through the wringer, oops", and that linking to that other report doesn't help.

Lanlaorn wrote:

Lanlaorn wrote:

Nevermind wrote:

Drachoff wrote:
You seem like a nice fellow..

Against new player/new army "To beat it once"... Disgusting..

How about actually going against players with lists that match in power level, instead of this kind of sucker punch?? Why even post this "Battle"report, only thing it does is show what type of player you are..

I don't know, I have posted other reports that are fair, even the 2nd game of the evening against the same player (different armies). To say I'm a nice fellow then call me disgusting and "the type of player you are" is pretty silly and immature. Time to look in the mirror.

You played the Eldar in that report, right? Because, uh, that doesn't really support your argument, the Eldar list is also very strong.

So because I've played both Eldar and Tau since 4th, my argument is invalid and I'm a horrible player for playing in 6th? I could have brought multiple Wave Serpents, I could have brought a Wraithknight. I did not. I think it's funny how butthurt you are about something so insignificant and misinterpreted.

Calm down, show me where I said you're a horrible player, a bad person or that I'm "butthurt". I agree with Imotekh that you're not min/maxing, but you can't deny you took the powerful units of powerful codices against players with less optimal lists from less competitive codices.

It's not like you're playing Eldar with Banshees and Striking Scorpions or Tau with Vespids and Stealth Suits, y'know? I'm not condemning you and I like your well made battle reports, I'm just saying the only reasonable response I can see here is "haha yea I guess I really ran them through the wringer, oops", and that linking to that other report doesn't help.

I'm fine. If you do not like it, move on. I did not force you to read these.

Lastly, for good measure, let me break it down for you: You mention you're "not condemning me", "you're a nice fellow" but you are very condemning and frankly oblivious to your negative implications. I am not making you read these. Does it matter which models I use? I have fielded SS in previous reports and I fielded 12 Vespids in my last CSM vs Tau report posted in these battle report forums. Someone in this thread posted that it's "people like you and your friend are why the local gaming is down". I'd like to flip the table and just state that it's people like you and others on this board that take a simple "I want to see if I can even do anything to Tau" battle and bring empty/biased negativity and probably rage out in local gaming stores preventing others from wanting to participate. Just move on.

Take a long sober look at the posts here, I don't appreciate you deciding what I'm feeling, what my opinions are and how I act. Although I guess it's a lot easier to beat up on a strawman.

Nevermind wrote:

Lanlaorn wrote:

Lanlaorn wrote:

Nevermind wrote:

Drachoff wrote:
You seem like a nice fellow..

Against new player/new army "To beat it once"... Disgusting..

How about actually going against players with lists that match in power level, instead of this kind of sucker punch?? Why even post this "Battle"report, only thing it does is show what type of player you are..

I don't know, I have posted other reports that are fair, even the 2nd game of the evening against the same player (different armies). To say I'm a nice fellow then call me disgusting and "the type of player you are" is pretty silly and immature. Time to look in the mirror.

You played the Eldar in that report, right? Because, uh, that doesn't really support your argument, the Eldar list is also very strong.

So because I've played both Eldar and Tau since 4th, my argument is invalid and I'm a horrible player for playing in 6th? I could have brought multiple Wave Serpents, I could have brought a Wraithknight. I did not. I think it's funny how butthurt you are about something so insignificant and misinterpreted.

Calm down, show me where I said you're a horrible player, a bad person or that I'm "butthurt". I agree with Imotekh that you're not min/maxing, but you can't deny you took the powerful units of powerful codices against players with less optimal lists from less competitive codices.

It's not like you're playing Eldar with Banshees and Striking Scorpions or Tau with Vespids and Stealth Suits, y'know? I'm not condemning you and I like your well made battle reports, I'm just saying the only reasonable response I can see here is "haha yea I guess I really ran them through the wringer, oops", and that linking to that other report doesn't help.

I'm fine. If you do not like it, move on. I did not force you to read these.

Lastly, for good measure, let me break it down for you: You mention you're "not condemning me", "you're a nice fellow" but you are very condemning and frankly oblivious to your negative implications. I am not making you read these. Does it matter which models I use? I have fielded SS in previous reports and I fielded 12 Vespids in my last CSM vs Tau report posted in these battle report forums. Someone in this thread posted that it's "people like you and your friend are why the local gaming is down". I'd like to flip the table and just state that it's people like you and others on this board that take a simple "I want to see if I can even do anything to Tau" battle and bring empty/biased negativity and probably rage out in local gaming stores preventing others from wanting to participate. Just move on.

I personally disagree with Laniaorn's interpretation of your Eldar/GK batrep, as the context was you displaying a well-balanced and contested batrep with fair lists. In my opinion, this batrep shows a large power discrepancy between tau and orks, but certainly does not impugn your character in any way.

However, Laniaorn really did not say anything inflammatory or rude in his one (short) post prior to this argument, just that he thought the eldar list was also strong, therefore not helping your case. Hardly the rudest post here. Perhaps you confused his comment with a comment made by another.

Lanlaorn wrote:
Take a long sober look at the posts here, I don't appreciate you deciding what I'm feeling, what my opinions are and how I act. Although I guess it's a lot easier to beat up on a strawman.

Just move on, please.


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 ImotekhTheStormlord wrote:

Nevermind wrote:

Lanlaorn wrote:

Lanlaorn wrote:

Nevermind wrote:

Drachoff wrote:
You seem like a nice fellow..

Against new player/new army "To beat it once"... Disgusting..

How about actually going against players with lists that match in power level, instead of this kind of sucker punch?? Why even post this "Battle"report, only thing it does is show what type of player you are..

I don't know, I have posted other reports that are fair, even the 2nd game of the evening against the same player (different armies). To say I'm a nice fellow then call me disgusting and "the type of player you are" is pretty silly and immature. Time to look in the mirror.

You played the Eldar in that report, right? Because, uh, that doesn't really support your argument, the Eldar list is also very strong.

So because I've played both Eldar and Tau since 4th, my argument is invalid and I'm a horrible player for playing in 6th? I could have brought multiple Wave Serpents, I could have brought a Wraithknight. I did not. I think it's funny how butthurt you are about something so insignificant and misinterpreted.

Calm down, show me where I said you're a horrible player, a bad person or that I'm "butthurt". I agree with Imotekh that you're not min/maxing, but you can't deny you took the powerful units of powerful codices against players with less optimal lists from less competitive codices.

It's not like you're playing Eldar with Banshees and Striking Scorpions or Tau with Vespids and Stealth Suits, y'know? I'm not condemning you and I like your well made battle reports, I'm just saying the only reasonable response I can see here is "haha yea I guess I really ran them through the wringer, oops", and that linking to that other report doesn't help.

I'm fine. If you do not like it, move on. I did not force you to read these.

Lastly, for good measure, let me break it down for you: You mention you're "not condemning me", "you're a nice fellow" but you are very condemning and frankly oblivious to your negative implications. I am not making you read these. Does it matter which models I use? I have fielded SS in previous reports and I fielded 12 Vespids in my last CSM vs Tau report posted in these battle report forums. Someone in this thread posted that it's "people like you and your friend are why the local gaming is down". I'd like to flip the table and just state that it's people like you and others on this board that take a simple "I want to see if I can even do anything to Tau" battle and bring empty/biased negativity and probably rage out in local gaming stores preventing others from wanting to participate. Just move on.

I personally disagree with Laniaorn's interpretation of your Eldar/GK batrep, as the context was you displaying a well-balanced and contested batrep with fair lists. In my opinion, this batrep shows a large power discrepancy between tau and orks, but certainly does not impugn your character in any way.

However, Laniaorn really did not say anything inflammatory or rude in his one (short) post prior to this argument, just that he thought the eldar list was also strong, therefore not helping your case. Hardly the rudest post here. Perhaps you confused his comment with a comment made by another.

There's a lot of implication in his comments, which I do not care for. It is not the rudest, but still not necessary.

Perhaps a more strategic battle report will be better. Instead of my Tau shoot footslogging orks off the table lol.

See, i'm not trying to insult you or something, but it'd be a worthy thread if orkses managed to win somehow. Feel the difference:
"A healthy middle-aged man managed to lift up a 10 kilo bag" and
"A 10 kilo bag smashed a healthy middle-aged man".

I've had a game where my footslogging horde managed to beat triptide with eldar allies. And i can tell you, it's a game of 'distraction over distraction to distract from something important' on the ork's side and 'well, how didin't i notice how he stole a relic with a bunch of grots?..' on the taudar side. Even though, my list contained shootaboyz, lootas and ig allies with a leman russ, it was a very tough matchup and triptides killed 1/3 of the army turn one but he got carried away by his own superior shooting and invincibility that all my desperate distractions worked. If for one moment he thought strategically and not just threw dice shooting and removing a bunch of boyz per time - he'd have no problems winning at all.

So reading off what half the people are saying is that unless your in a tournament you can't play tau or eldar? The problem is people who think that. So people who have those armies can't play in a non competive game. I'm sorry but if I was playing a new army throw the cheese at me. If I wanna play competive (which it sounds like he does) I wanna fight the worst. He didn't make his list based off what his friend get over yourselves people. If you don't like don't read it.

 ravengatorfan wrote:
So reading off what half the people are saying is that unless your in a tournament you can't play tau or eldar? The problem is people who think that. So people who have those armies can't play in a non competive game. I'm sorry but if I was playing a new army throw the cheese at me. If I wanna play competive (which it sounds like he does) I wanna fight the worst. He didn't make his list based off what his friend get over yourselves people. If you don't like don't read it.

No, that isn't what people are getting at. What people are getting at is that Orks are a very old, under powered codex while Tau and Eldar are new and, to put it lightly, slightly ahead in the codex creep. Now playing Tau or Eldar isn't bad, inherently, but everyone will agree they have some very powerful builds that ought not to be played in small games without proper warning. For example when I played in the school league I took 2 Wave Serpents and an Avatar, won every game with full points, 3/4 times I tabled the opponent. That was a (well, it should have been...) a competitive setting and I took the harshest list I could, but in a pick up game I wouldn't dream of using such a list, especially against someone who is trying out a new army/list. If you are looking for a competitive game with competitive units then it is common courtesy to prearrange to make sure the opponent wants the same kind of game. This isn't to take away from the OP's game, the Ork was apparently informed about the Tau's shooting potential and played anyway. I bet if the Ork would of won most of these comments would of been quite different.

 CleverAntics wrote:
That was a pretty harsh match up. Especially with a Riptide at 750 pts. Was more a shooting gallery than a game in my opinion, and probably one of the best match ups for Tau to face. Pretty sure that was a 30 minute game or less, lol.

Course, I sold my Tau. Local players weren't too receiving of the army itself. :/

I think EVERYTHING else is more threatening than the riptide. Fire warriors putting out the volume with marker lights ignoring cover, broadsides ignoring cover by default. Stahp hating the riptide before the game even starts! I don't get it, just because the internet says they are OP you have to go "OMG you lost he has a riptide!!!11!" god...

And that's why Tau are in need of a nerf and Orks in need of a buff

 Overlord Thraka wrote:
And that's why Tau are in need of a nerf and Orks in need of a buff

Lets make all the codexes the same then with that thinking. Everyone have the same list and see if the dice pick the winner.

I like pic batreps much better then video, video is nice and all because you can see explanations happening while people do stuff but you cannot really see the units/battlefield as well as most overhead pictures give.

Despite the negative comments you received I think its good to see battle reports like this.

If someone was theory hammering in a vacuum and thought their greentide list with just a warboss and boys would be amazing, and then saw this batrep they might give more thought to their list building.

This batrep shows very well the weakness of assault armies in the current 6th edition, as you did not lost a single model it seems from the final KDR efficiency you posted on the batrep.

I think your list is boring as it is just sit in a corner and shoot, which is not fun and pretty much anti tau fluff for the two main ways they fight but whatever.. I also think the ork list is is boring, as it has almost no variety, there are 3 different models in it and it has 91 models.

 ravengatorfan wrote:

 Overlord Thraka wrote:
And that's why Tau are in need of a nerf and Orks in need of a buff

Lets make all the codexes the same then with that thinking. Everyone have the same list and see if the dice pick the winner.

I agree with what you're getting at here. I think everything is competitive to a point (excluding spam). If everything was the same, it'd just be the dice deciding the outcome.


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blaktoof wrote:


I like pic batreps much better then video, video is nice and all because you can see explanations happening while people do stuff but you cannot really see the units/battlefield as well as most overhead pictures give.

Despite the negative comments you received I think its good to see battle reports like this.

Thanks - I do too.