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2014/01/27 03:11:30
Subject: Saves: Misfortune and Feel No Pain
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Fresh-Faced New User
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Gday everyone,
Sorry if this has been done to death already. For the purposes of the Divination Psychic power 'Misfortune', is 'Feel no Pain' considered a save?
Do successful FNP rolls need to be re-rolled or just armour/cover/invul saves?
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This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2014/02/20 10:11:38
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2014/01/27 03:16:34
Subject: Re:For the purposes of 'Misfortune' Is 'Feel no Pain' a save?
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2014/01/27 03:16:54
Subject: Re:Is 'Feel no Pain' a save?
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Trigger-Happy Baal Predator Pilot
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No ... it is most certainly not a save of any kind.
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2014/01/27 03:18:31
Subject: Re:For the purposes of 'Misfortune' Is 'Feel no Pain' a save?
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Fresh-Faced New User
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Thanks for the reply. Why is it not considered a save?
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2014/01/27 03:28:42
Subject: Re:For the purposes of 'Misfortune' Is 'Feel no Pain' a save?
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Auspicious Daemonic Herald
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Because FNP says its not a save
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2014/01/27 03:29:40
Subject: Re:For the purposes of 'Misfortune' Is 'Feel no Pain' a save?
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Trigger-Happy Baal Predator Pilot
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There are only three types of saving throws.
Armour, Invulnerable, and Cover. These are covered in the BRB on pgs. 16-18.
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2014/01/27 03:34:06
Subject: Re:For the purposes of 'Misfortune' Is 'Feel no Pain' a save?
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The Hive Mind
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Read the Feel No Pain rule. It's absolutely clear.
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2014/01/27 03:34:18
Subject: Re:For the purposes of 'Misfortune' Is 'Feel no Pain' a save?
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Fresh-Faced New User
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Great Thanks.
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2014/01/27 05:10:00
Subject: Re:For the purposes of 'Misfortune' Is 'Feel no Pain' a save?
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Hellish Haemonculus
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I don't think there is EVER a situation where FNP would be considered a save.
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2014/01/27 08:47:00
Subject: Re:For the purposes of 'Misfortune' Is 'Feel no Pain' a save?
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Long-Range Land Speeder Pilot
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 Jimsolo wrote:I don't think there is EVER a situation where FNP would be considered a save.
except by our abstract sence of it in that the model that would normally be removed has not been becasue he was 'saved' by FNP.
but yes, as stated by others, it is not a save.
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2014/01/27 09:21:57
Subject: Re:For the purposes of 'Misfortune' Is 'Feel no Pain' a save?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Jimsolo wrote:I don't think there is EVER a situation where FNP would be considered a save.
Sadly, D weapons says no saves of any kind including special rolls like feel no pain. The way they wrote that comes off as specials rolls are a kind save.
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2014/01/27 19:27:40
Subject: Re:For the purposes of 'Misfortune' Is 'Feel no Pain' a save?
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Lord Commander in a Plush Chair
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 DJGietzen wrote: Jimsolo wrote:I don't think there is EVER a situation where FNP would be considered a save.
Sadly, D weapons says no saves of any kind including special rolls like feel no pain. The way they wrote that comes off as specials rolls are a kind save.
the rule is written as an extension of the thought, it is saying that no special rolls to save a model's destruction cannot be made(you will notice Reanimation protocols are listed as well as fnp, RP happens well after both failed save and failed FNP).
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2014/01/27 20:05:51
Subject: Re:For the purposes of 'Misfortune' Is 'Feel no Pain' a save?
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Bounding Assault Marine
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 Kommissar Kel wrote: DJGietzen wrote: Jimsolo wrote:I don't think there is EVER a situation where FNP would be considered a save.
Sadly, D weapons says no saves of any kind including special rolls like feel no pain. The way they wrote that comes off as specials rolls are a kind save.
the rule is written as an extension of the thought, it is saying that no special rolls to save a model's destruction cannot be made(you will notice Reanimation protocols are listed as well as fnp, RP happens well after both failed save and failed FNP).
It's a sort of sloppy way of saying that anything hit by a D weapon is just dead and there's no rule that can stop them from being dead. Full Stop. If they'd just left out the FNP example it would have been a lot less confusing.
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2014/01/28 00:34:12
Subject: Re:For the purposes of 'Misfortune' Is 'Feel no Pain' a save?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Extension of thought or not its sloppy to the point of grammatical inaccuracy. The sentence makes special roles a subset of saves. It should have been written as "no saves or special roles of any kind, including feel no pain and reanimation protocols..."
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