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Frothing Warhound of Chaos






Hey guys I'm still kind of new to this game and was wondering if anybody could tell me:
1) whether or not this is a good list.
2) suggestions or potential changes for this list.

Thanks in advance.

CSM

Chaos Lord + MoN + BM + Term Armor 150

Sorcer + psyker lvl 3 + Combi-Plasma 120

Plague Marines x 7 + 2 pg 198

Plague Marines x 7 + 2 pg 198

Terms x4 + MoN + 4 Combi Meltas 170

Land Raider + Dozer blades 235

X2 Rhino + Dozer Blades 80

Oblits + MoN x3 228

Oblits + MoN x3 228

Heldrake 170

Heldrake 170

Total: 1847


   
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Killeen

You're really short on troops. You only have fourteen scoring bodies, at 1850 points that's laughable. And you only have two squads of troops, you need at least three because most games are objective games with at least three objectives.

Drop the terminators and overcosted land raider (the Chaos one is suboptimal because we get the worst variant, you want something that will get your assault troops somewhere fast and if you do that the guns are wasted) and take more plague marines, at least one more squad and maybe even a minimum cultist squad to come in from reserves and camp on your closest objective.

Otherwise looks alright, you could ditch the termi armor if you get rid of the termis and spread around some of the wealth. This is an okay list, but you have a lot of tough elite units and certain lists will make you have a bad day.

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Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology

Yeah many new CSM players mistake chaos terminators for being similar to their loyalist counterparts. They're not. Your 565 point terminator death star really isnt that scary im afraid. Chaos terminators are really only good for termicide. Unless you really know what you're doing, I wouldn't take them for anything else.

I agree with the previous poster on troops. Strong as Plague Marines are, you want 3 squads of them. A general rule is for every 500 points, take a solid squad of troops of a bit over 100 points or so. At 1850, you should take 3 squads of 5 at least, but 3 squads of 7 would be preferable.

I'd take the obliterators in 3 squads of 2 such that you can better spread them out, and if one squad gets taken out its not such a big deal. With either 2 or 3 units, a leadership test will be forced if you lose a model, so having 1 oblit run is better than 2.

id rather have 3 rhinos than 2 with dozer blades. They're so pricey. How many times will you get to ram with a rhino?

If I were to suggest a deathstar, I would suggest typhus and some mutilators with MoN in a land raider or deep striking, or a biker lord with some spawn and the black mace. Nurgle is hard to come up with deathstars with because hes all about FNP and high toughness values. Daemon Princes are also good but you must take at least 2 if not 3 by using an allied detachment. 1 FMC will just get shot down.

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Made in ca
Lesser Daemon of Chaos





Toronto, Canada

Definitely light on Troops. General rule of thumb is 1 squad for every 500 points.

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Stockholm

I would think about dropping the LR and the termies as said above. Put the Lord on a bike and get him some accompanying spaws/MoN bikers, split the Oblits up and get a small group of cultists as the third troop choice for backfield objectives.

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