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So, i know all other afterlives of the races. Such as Daemons, Feast of the emperor and stuff.

But what about Orks?, i know about Gork and Mork. And that Orks think that when they eventually die horribly that they are spat back out by Gork and Mork into their new bodies.

What what if it was all a lie?, what if Orks are thrown in the Warp, are eaten by Khorne (They only seem like Khorne type Creatures to me) or end up as his slaves or something, i can imagine a Ork in he temple of Khorne all dressed up in Chaos gear and a bit mutated. I don't see how Gork and Mork work, and the Khorne theory just seems more probable really. Although i never hear of Orks in the warp, and theres the thing about Fungi in Orks which grows on planets, although i believe when a Ork dies it goes, and it does not go back into a new body.

Discuss.

Well, if existence of a Chaos entity is dependent on strong feelings in the material world, there's a strong case for the existence of Mork and Gork. Orks seem to all be pretty wound up in things their deities find favorable.

in 'Ere We Go, the old Ork book, you did have units called Chaos boys who could be included in your army. I think they were exclusively Khorne worshippers, but it's been so long I really can't remember.

 techsoldaten wrote:
Well, if existence of a Chaos entity is dependent on strong feelings in the material world, there's a strong case for the existence of Mork and Gork. Orks seem to all be pretty wound up in things their deities find favorable.

in 'Ere We Go, the old Ork book, you did have units called Chaos boys who could be included in your army. I think they were exclusively Khorne worshippers, but it's been so long I really can't remember.

Oh! Chaos boys!. Cant find any images or trace of them online so far, but that explains it.

And i understand what your saying, thanks mate.

I still say Orks are actually slightly more Slaanesh than Khorne, in terms of demeanor and behavior, though fKhorne's the favorite of the fluff writers and Slaanesh the unfavorite so that pretty much never shows up. You'd never see things with an emotional profile like speed freaks or flash gitz in a Khorne army. And they go to war because they enjoy it, not because they hate everything, which is also a Slaanesh thing.

Gork and Mork are probably the most powerful gods in the 40k universe, if orks believe that Gork or Mork spits them back up into a new body, I'm going to trust that theory.

 Sir Samuel Buca wrote:
Gork and Mork are probably the most powerful gods in the 40k universe, if orks believe that Gork or Mork spits them back up into a new body, I'm going to trust that theory.

I second that

Actually, its been said multiple times that Gork and Mork are the strongest Gods, even over any Chaos being. Its like some ancient greek myth, the two of them sluggin it out for eternity

Orks are more primitive than Humans and other races, so they aren't based on all the lies and crazy stuff like the god emperor and such. They only really believe something if its true in a sense, so yeah i support the Gork and Mork idea.

Haha, guess we Orks can just say the god emperor.

Arguably, they're LESS primitive, from certain viewpoints.

I don't think they even have souls.

They are nothing but engineered plants/animals with instincts.

Broly wrote:
I don't think they even have souls.

They are nothing but engineered plants/animals with instincts.

Uh, of course they have 'souls'. All a 'soul' is in W40K is a connection to the warp, and would you happen to guess at what is the most powerful psyker race in W40K? Oh right, the Orks.

Not sure about most powerful. That would probably be Eldar. But certainly they rival the Eldar and every single one of them has a distinct psychic presence in the Ork gestalt.

I just love the fact that if an Ork thinks a scrabbled together hunk of metal that makes noise will work and kill something ... it does for them but not another soul. So based on that, if Orks think that Gork (or Mork) can spit them out and they live again ... they will. The Orky philosophy is actually quite astounding if you think about it.

 Melissia wrote:
Not sure about most powerful. That would probably be Eldar. But certainly they rival the Eldar and every single one of them has a distinct psychic presence in the Ork gestalt.

Technically, would that not be Space Marines?

Just kidding.

Maybe Tyranids? It depends on if we count Hive Mind trickery as psychic powers or not, as it is not really the same thing as what the Orks are up to.

 BrotherHaraldus wrote:

 Melissia wrote:
Not sure about most powerful. That would probably be Eldar. But certainly they rival the Eldar and every single one of them has a distinct psychic presence in the Ork gestalt.

Technically, would that not be Space Marines?

Just kidding.

Maybe Tyranids? It depends on if we count Hive Mind trickery as psychic powers or not, as it is not really the same thing as what the Orks are up to.

I say the hive mind is simply an intelligence so foreign to the warp that the warp cant "comprehend" tyranids.


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 Melissia wrote:
Not sure about most powerful. That would probably be Eldar. But certainly they rival the Eldar and every single one of them has a distinct psychic presence in the Ork gestalt.

individually, elder are the most powerful psychic power.
all together, the orks are siply so numeranle, and so unified in belief, that they litteraly make stuff happen through force of will.

 OIIIIIIO wrote:
I just love the fact that if an Ork thinks a scrabbled together hunk of metal that makes noise will work and kill something ... it does for them but not another soul. So based on that, if Orks think that Gork (or Mork) can spit them out and they live again ... they will. The Orky philosophy is actually quite astounding if you think about it.

This is not actually how it works. An Orky weapon (for example) is, indeed, a functional weapon. It's not just a metal pipe stuck to a box. It's just not a weapon that follows Human technological patterns, so according to the Humanocentrist Adeptus Mechanicus, it "cannot possibly work" because its design falls outside that of human understanding, so there must be some weird, Orky magic involved in making it function.

Gork and/or Mork are some of the oldest gods of the Warp (as old as the gods of the Eldar, at least), that have remained free of the depredations of the Ruinous Powers (unlike the Eldar Gods). Thus, there are two huge gods in the Warp, slugging it out. One's the god of brutal cunning, the other is the god of cunning brutality. No one remembers, if anyone ever knew, which one is which. The only time they stop fighting, however, is when one of the other Warp-Gods comes to mess with them.

It is a carefully guarded secret, but Orks believe they are already dead and that any ork killed has simply reincarnated into a universe in which they had previously lived. Terry reason that this universe, with its teef, gunz, squigs, vehicles and people to krump must be some sort of heaven, because "a universe that good couldn't be open to just anybody."

 Happyjew wrote:
It is a carefully guarded secret, but Orks believe they are already dead and that any ork killed has simply reincarnated into a universe in which they had previously lived. Terry reason that this universe, with its teef, gunz, squigs, vehicles and people to krump must be some sort of heaven, because "a universe that good couldn't be open to just anybody."

I love this!

"We live in da best orf all possible worlds. Dere is only waaagh! Dis is proof dat Gork (or Mork, mebbe) luvs us and wants da orks to be happy."

---Famed Ork Philosopher Kan-deed (nailed into a Deff Dread after drinking too much hemlock).