Forum adverts like this one are shown to any user who is not logged in. Join us by filling out a tiny 3 field form and you will get your own, free, dakka user account which gives a good range of benefits to you: No adverts like this in the forums anymore. Times and dates in your local timezone. Full tracking of what you have read so you can skip to your first unread post, easily see what has changed since you last logged in, and easily see what is new at a glance. Email notifications for threads you want to watch closely. Being a part of the oldest wargaming community on the net. If you are already a member then feel free to login now.

Hey guys. So I hope this isn't too presumptuous of me but I was reading through the v1.0 EFT rulebook and noticed quite a few typos and other things that I thought I would point out. I know you are a small company so it didn't bother me, I just thought it would be helpful. Two things to note: I am not an English major, and I have not made it through the entire book yet. Though now that I'm in the rules section I haven't seen any mistakes so I'm just wondering if the majority of editing was spent on the rules and not the fluff sections. Anyway, here is my list:

Page 8, Ancient Arganea, paragraph 2, last sentence, missing period
Page 11, Judges of Salamandros, paragraph 1, last sentence. “Named” should be “name”
Page 13, Age of Crystals, paragraph 4, sentence 5, extra comma after “Any Mage Circles”
Page 13, Age of Crystals, paragraph 4, sentence 6, extra comma after “The unlucky few to survive”
Page 13, Geography, paragraph 2, sentence 2, extra comma “after destroyed by Aetherbombs”
Page 14, The Myrmidons, paragraph 2, first sentence, extra comma after “name of Myrm”
Page 14, The Myrmidons, last paragraph, first sentence, letter after semicolon should be lower case
Page 15, Miasma Horde, first paragraph, sentence 3, “It” after comma should be lower case
Page 15, Miasma Horde, last paragraph, last sentence, extra comma after “people of Wugin”
Page 16, Age of Arganea, paragraph 3, first sentence, extra comma after “by the Arganeans”
Page 16, Age of Arganea, paragraph 5, last sentence, “city” is misspelled as “citiy”
Page 17, Age of Mages, paragraph 2, sentence 2, “member” misspelled as “memeber”
Page 17, Age of Mages, paragraph 2, last sentence, “would becomes” should either be “would become” or “becomes”
Page 17, Age of Mages, paragraph 3, first sentence, “has became” should either be “has become” or “became”
Page 17, Age of Mages, paragraph 4, last sentence, extra comma after “Citizen of the same city”
Page 17, Geography, last paragraph, first sentence, should be a space between “Plateau” and “at”
Page 18, Breaker City, last two sentences, Anoch Seropian - Anoch is used in one sentence and Seropian in the next, possibly confusing
Page 18, Mercurious, sentence 3, extra comma after “of the Amphitheatre”
Page 19, Nacre, sentence 2, “Precipeces” should not be capitalized
Page 19, Nacre, sentence 4, extra period after “Mages and Sorcerors”
Page 19, Age of Mages, paragraph 2, sentence 2, “other nation” should be “other nations”
Page 20, Age of Mages, last paragraph, sentence 5, reads awkwardly, maybe split into two sentences between “became warped” and “impossible architecture”
Page 20, Age of Mages, last paragraph, sentence 5, missing period to end sentence
Page 21, Rapteras and The Skywing Guard, first paragraph, sentence 2, “They” should not be capitalized
Page 22, Ineb-Iksor, sentence 4, extra comma after “discovered the Iksorans”
Page 23, Trolls, missing description of Deep Trolls?
Page 23, Gels, first paragraph, sentence 2, “grim” should be “grime”
Page 24, Goblins, paragraph 2, first sentence, “away” should be “a way”
Page 24, Goblins, paragraph 2, sentence 4, extra comma after “wear special masks”
Page 24, Orcs, paragraph 2, last sentence, “built” should be “building”
Page 24, High Elves, paragraph 2, sentence 3, extra comma after “orders of mages”
Page 25, High Elves, paragraph 2, last sentence, extra comma after “Dwarves”
Page 25, Dwarves, last paragraph, second sentence, extremely awkward sentence. Would completely rewrite as: “Mage Circles required soldiers to defend them while casting their spells, and Rune Fencers became common in this role, while run weapons themselves were highly sought after by the rich and powerful.”
Page 26, Demonites, first paragraph, sentence 2, extra comma after “created by wizards”
Page 26, Demonites, last paragraph, sentence 2, extra comma after “fetish or construct”
Page 26, Demonites, last paragraph, sentence 4, extra comma after “survive in combat”

Matt is terrible at commas.

I've made the fixes in the InDesign file, they'll appear in the next update.

I am a little overzealous with them. Thanks for catching the mistakes!

No problem, glad to help out! I'm churning my way through the book. I have more to post but I figure I might as well wait until I'm 100% through so you only have to update the document once.

I know you guys are on the way/at Templecon right now, but I did finish the book. Here are the rest of the edits that I noticed. Thanks for indulging me!

Page 44, Common Status Effects, Poison, does not list what damage it does
Page 44, Common Status Effects, Stop, “Act Phasen” should be “Act Phase”
Page 45, Elements and Blood, paragraph 2, sentence 2, “attuned attuned” should be “attuned” (attuned written twice)
Page 59, Dragoon, first paragraph, sentence 4, “gates Ineb” should be “gates of Ineb”
Page 59, Dragoon, first paragraph, sentence 4, “hunter hunter” should be “hunter” (hunter written twice)
Page 60, Gunsmith, paragraph 3, last sentence, “resultedan” should be “resulted in an”
Page 62, Pugilist, paragraph 2, first sentence, extra comma after “a year, most”
Page 64, Rune Fencer, first paragraph, sentence 4, “Unlike” misspelled as “Ufnlike”
Page 68, Thief, last paragraph, sentence 3, “The Mages Cirles” should be “The Mage Circles” (circles misspelled and non-fluff consistent pluralization of mage)
Page 73 and 74, Beastmen, Spike and Drain Traps are heavily referenced, but have no description in the book (that I could find) of what damage or effects they do by default
Page 78, Light Dragons, first paragraph, sentence 2, “creatures they began life” should be “creatures began life”
Page 82, Goblin Scavenger, Horde core ability, “goblinsgain” should be “goblins gain”
Page 82, Goblin Scavenger, first paragraph, sentence 4, “prowess” misspelled as “profwess”
Page 82, Goblin Scavenger, last paragraph, first sentence, “Arganean” should be “Arganea”
Page 83, Kappa, first paragraph, last sentence, extra comma after “Their swelling population”
Page 83, Kappa, paragraph 2, sentence 3, “has partially managed” should be “has been partially managed” or “has partially been managed” or “is managed”
Page 84, Kirin, last paragraph, sentence 2, extra comma after “for quality steeds”
Page 86, Lunarian Terranaut, first sentence, extra comma after “that first incident”
Page 87, Mandragora, last paragraph, first sentence, extra comma after “seemingly mindless tenacity”
Page 91, Deep Trolls, last paragraph, first sentence, “cousins” misspelled as “cousions”
Page 92, Earth Troll, first paragraph, sentence 3, “Unlike their other trolls” should be “Unlike the other trolls”
Page 92, Earth Troll, last paragraph, last sentence, missing period
Page 93, Fire Troll, first paragraph, sentence 2, “their most notorious creation, the Humans was also their first.” should be “their most notorious creation, the Humans, were also their first.”
Page 94, Storm Troll, first paragraph, last sentence, “helped shaped Halleford into varied region and fertile land that it is today.” should be “helped shape Halleford into the varied region and fertile land that it is today.”
Page 99, Ainar, paragraph 3, sentence 3, broken clause, possibly change “Zueton mining colonies” to “Zueton mining colonies got out” (referring to the rumors getting out)
Page 100, Alfindrate, paragraph 2, last sentence, “southern forests, Alfindrate” should be “southern forests, but Alfindrate”
Page 101, Chain, Heroic Commands, the alignment seems to be off for the box
Page 101, Chain, last paragraph, last sentence, extra comma after “the next adventure”
Page 102, Drake Dragonborn, first paragraph, first sentence, “the Church” is referenced. As there are many religions in EFT, and this is the first mention of it in Drake’s description, should it instead be “the Church of Numina”?
Page 102, Drake Dragonborn, paragraph 3, sentence 2, “plateau” should be capitalized based on consistency of other occurrences
Page 106, Falkin, Phantom Commands, Warp, “MMovement” should be “Movement”
Page 106, Falkin, first and last paragraph, “faculty” should be capitalized based on consistency of other occurrences
Page 106, Falkin, first paragraph, sentence 3, extra comma after “of his opponents”
Page 107, The Fallen, Miasma Commands, Raise, references Dark Priest instead of The Fallen
Page 109, Leir Satona, first paragraph, first sentence, “dwarven” should be capitalized based on consistency with other occurrences
Page 110, Lyra Cosine, last paragraph, first sentence, extra comma after “the Bandit Slayer”
Page 125, right column, paragraph 2, first sentence, “Any” should be “any”
Page 126, Church of Numina, header is on previous page
Suggestion - the Campaign section uses EXP as currency in a number of places, but does not mention how it is earned. I know that this is detailed in the Scenario section, but a mention of this in the Campaign section would help with clarity as I was looking for this information while I was reading the Campaign section.
Page 130, Deployment, first sentence, “edges” should be “edge”
Page 130 and Page 32, Deployment. A typical board size is 15 x 15 and two ways are referenced for deployment: 5 squares away from the center or 10 squares away from the opposing deployment zone. Since the dimensions of the board are odd, the center of the board is actually the 8th row. Going with 5 squares from the center (row) of the board works fine, it leaves 2 rows per player as their deployment zone. However, if you use the 10 squares away method, that leaves 5 squares of deployment zone, meaning one player’s zone could potentially be 3 rows to the other’s 2 rows. Please correct me if I am interpreting this wrong but that’s how I read it.
Page 130 and Page 36, End Game Rolls. When I first read page 36, it seemed to say that on turn 7 you continue on a 2+, and on turns 8-12 you continue on a 3+. However, on page 130, it is clear that the die roll to continue the game is supposed to get progressively harder for each turn played. I’m assuming it’s the latter, since that’s how most games do it, so page 36 should probably be clarified.
Page 130, Rule Variations, End Control, “roll Initiative to and the” should be “roll Initiative and the”
Page 131, King of the Hill, Rules, last sentence, “the winner” should (probably) be “the player”
Page 131, King of the Hill, Results, last sentence, “holding the objective” is not a defined game term. I can infer that it means “having more Crystals adjacent to the Objective”, but just a heads up.
Page 132, Bandit Raid, Setup, what constitutes as the “front of the Defender’s Deployment Zone”? I can take it to mean either the row closest to the opponent INSIDE the Defender’s Deployment Zone or the row just OUTSIDE the Defender’s Deployment Zone. Also, who places these Objectives? I would assume the Defender but it’s not explicit.
Page 132, Bandit Raid, Defender Rules, last sentence, details the EXP gain for Defender, which should instead be detailed in the Result section (where it is in fact listed again).
Page 133, Glass Cannon, Setup, “front of Deployment Zone” question again
Page 133, Glass Cannon, Crystal Shard, Shatter Proof, “physical attack” should be “ATK attack” for rules consistency (even if it is a redundant phrase)
Page 133, Message For You, Sir!, Rules, first sentence, “may not leave the deployment zone” should be “may not leave their Deployment Zone”
Page 138 (of the pdf), “available” is misspelled as “avaliable”
Out of curiosity, why is the Dark Knight not included in the book?

Because the Dark Knight rises?

Best of luck about getting a response from them about typos. We gave them a pretty hard time about some fairly substatial typos we found at Templecon in the Brushfire and Exomorph book. :p

Thanks for the typos Ken. Along with the ones for Brushfire found at Templecon, we'll be adjusting the PDFs when we get home. We definitely appreciate the help our fans provide.

The balance issues had during the tourney (specifically, the Chipmunk Mortar) require more work than a simple kneejerk solution. But after some testing, we will do something for them.

The Exo book has already be taken down from Print on Demand so no one else gets the typo'ed book, and once the fixes are in, it will be turned back on.

 miskatonicalum wrote:
Thanks for the typos Ken. Along with the ones for Brushfire found at Templecon, we'll be adjusting the PDFs when we get home. We definitely appreciate the help our fans provide.

The balance issues had during the tourney (specifically, the Chipmunk Mortar) require more work than a simple kneejerk solution. But after some testing, we will do something for them.

The Exo book has already be taken down from Print on Demand so no one else gets the typo'ed book, and once the fixes are in, it will be turned back on.

But knee jerk recations are my favorite kind!

Talking specifically about the chipmunk morters... I don't think their that overpowered. Their always going to deviate unlike say the trebuche under 25". Sure maybe their RS" is alittle on the high side but they are a pretty expensive unit to take.

Templates only deviate if no models are under the template, or if they miss ALL targets under the template.

Combine a 6 RS + 2 for not moving (Weapon Team type rule) for a range of 9-18. CWT are very unlikely to miss.

What I think it really comes down to though, is two fold:

1) Mortars are being camped in forest terrain making them immune to anything except ambushes or flanks. Their targets are still receiving a cover bonus, but I feel this may not be enough.

Perhaps instead of 'ignore LoS', terrain exceeding 2" gives a +4 WS bonus. In a way, this compensates for their rolls, giving them a 'range' of 5-14 on their rolls. Alternatively, forcing a deviation with blocked LoS, before attacks could also help. With either of these they can still be camped in safe areas, as Mortars are wont to do.

2) Identity of Machine Gun vs Mortar. As the rules currently are, the Panzardi Speciale gets better as the target squad has more models. So it is a weapon best used against high model count squads. (30 attacks in a horde!) With a HM 1, their Shock rule isnt that great, but against low FD squads, its a nice 'icing on the cake' but not where as awesome as the flat ignore LoS ability of Mortar. ...... Mortar on the other hand is a 5" Template that ignores body armor and deals 3 DE. As is, the mortar is as effective at hitting groups as the Panzardi and is in a safer position camped in a forest. With only 3 DE, anything with a decent shield (targe or special equipment) are going to shrug off the mortar. So the two weapons fill the same sort of role, and as is, the mortar is the better choice.

I currently am of the opinion that the mortar should be more of a single/low target striker. Used against elites, while the panzardi is used against cannon fodder. My thoughts for changes start with a template reduction to 3" so it hits a smaller group of models. A damage/armor adjustment: Three thoughts currently: 4 DE, Ignores Body Armor OR 2 DE, Ignore All Armor, OR 3 DE 3 AP. Each has its merits and drawbacks.

Everything is up in the air of course, but I just thought i'd share what my current ideas are.

The update is going up tonight! Sorry this took so long, I've been really sick the last two weeks and haven't been able to get anything done.

 kenshivalion wrote:

Out of curiosity, why is the Dark Knight not included in the book?

To make you buy a second book later on with another 60ish units.

Um...did you say 60ish? Where do I send my money?