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So this scenario turned up in a game i was spectating yesterday:



The 6 remaining guard models from a 10 man squad failed their Leadership after being shot at by the DA Vanguards in the crater.

Question is: What exactly happens?
RaW do not say how you run from buildings.

Options that i see in here are:

Do they jump from the battlements, all take a 3- Dangerous terrain (6" Height), and then run directly towards their board edge 11"? or 5" because of the jump?

Do they go down into the bastion (3"), exit through the door, and then Run 8" towards their board edge? Does this Kill only the Heavy Team model because the DA block his retreat (so model in destroyed) because there is only 2" of space between the bastion and 1" of the enemy.

After exiting (disembarking from the bastion), do they go around the other side of it?

Thoughts? =)

Read the last paragraph of p95 of the rulebook : they have to jump.

My question is:
How did they end up in this position to start with?
It looks like models are both on and off the battlement at the same time....

Under non-Stronghold rules the entire unit has to embark 'into' the battlement, as the rule states the unit embarks, just like any other embankment scenario.
Under the Stronghold rules they still have to obey the unit coherency like any other unit within a ruin, and that building puts the bases at least 7 inches away.

JinxDragon wrote:
My question is:
How did they end up in this position to start with?
It looks like models are both on and off the battlement at the same time....

Under non-Stronghold rules the entire unit has to embark 'into' the battlement, as the rule states the unit embarks, just like any other embankment scenario.
Under the Stronghold rules they still have to obey the unit coherency like any other unit within a ruin, and that building puts the bases at least 7 inches away.

This is only because the picture was taken while things were being measured (from the door, to destination etc) and 1 was put back up top for the purpose of asking the question with the Pic...

Completely missed the P95 bit, so yes, they would have to jump and run, but 11" from the base of the building, or do you remove the 6" of jump (as you would in ruins, if you even do in ruins?)

Rule wise, I'm not entirely certain that RAW covers that.

HIWPI: I would count the "jump" as 1" and go from there. Mainly because the unit only "moves" 1" before they fall down.. but that would be interjecting some logic in this. Ruins are different as you don't usually jump off of them. I haven't seen any ruins that wouldn't allow you to simply move from one level to the next without jumping.

You could content loosing the inch to move to the edge but the when you factor in the inch when they hit the deck assumimg they survived the DT drop they will still run 11" either way

When they jump from a bastion, they must be placed up to 3" away (since they have to go as fast as possible toward the table edge). They would then go another 8" towards the table edge.

I would start counting my fall back move from where they were on top the bastion (i.e. guy on the farthest side of the battlements would count his inch's towards the edge, then jump of 3")

clively wrote:
Rule wise, I'm not entirely certain that RAW covers that.

HIWPI: I would count the "jump" as 1" and go from there. Mainly because the unit only "moves" 1" before they fall down.. but that would be interjecting some logic in this. Ruins are different as you don't usually jump off of them. I haven't seen any ruins that wouldn't allow you to simply move from one level to the next without jumping.

but you count the 3" up/down per lvl when this happens right?

I thought RaW didn't have anything on this, so HIWPI would probably count: from initial position to battlements wall (1-2"), then either 1" or height (6") or lvl (3") for the jump, followed by remaining move toward table edge.
That would mean that with 11" rolled and 2" from the edge, the guard pictured up top would be 8", 6" or 3" away from the bastion Wall =P