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2014/02/03 05:20:54
Subject: cover and flyers
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Been Around the Block
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Could someone explain flyers to me, as far as cover is concerned.
Logic would tell me they are high above the field and get no cover save. I don't thinkt he Heldrake gets a jink save under normal conditions.
If I am placed behind a large building does true line of sight matter or is it just understood hes up in the air for all to see?
If there are supporting rules please note them so I can use them as reference.
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Rebel: X-Wing x2 : Y-Wing x1 : YT-1300 x1
Imperial: Firespray-31 x1 : Tie Fighter x2 : Tie advanced x1
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2014/02/03 05:22:56
Subject: cover and flyers
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Just like everything else, true LoS.
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2014/02/03 05:29:16
Subject: cover and flyers
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Infiltrating Broodlord
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Page 74, BRB, Vehicles and Cover - Obscured Targets
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-It is not the strongest of the Tyranids that survive but the ones most adaptive to change. |
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2014/02/03 05:51:09
Subject: cover and flyers
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Auspicious Daemonic Herald
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No where in the rules for flyers or fmc does it change or modify how they get cover so they still follow normal rules
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2014/02/03 14:10:40
Subject: cover and flyers
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Judgemental Grey Knight Justicar
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Don't bring logic into game rules, it will always turn out bad.
True line of sight for cover, for all units, unless otherwise noted in a units exceptions to the normal rules.
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2014/02/03 14:27:03
Subject: cover and flyers
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Boom! Leman Russ Commander
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 JoshTheMadTitan wrote:Could someone explain flyers to me, as far as cover is concerned.
Logic would tell me they are high above the field and get no cover save. I don't thinkt he Heldrake gets a jink save under normal conditions.
If I am placed behind a large building does true line of sight matter or is it just understood hes up in the air for all to see?
If there are supporting rules please note them so I can use them as reference.
Vehicles have permission to gain a cover save Iff they are 25% obscured.
Flyers that are 25% obscured gain a cover save Iff they do not have a rule forbidding them to gain said cover save.
IF A allows B
and C is A
then C allows B, Assuming C=/=D
If Vehicles that are 25% obscured gain a cover save
and flyers are vehicles
then Flyers that are 25% obscured gain a cover save, assuming Flyers do not have a rule that states otherwise.
Now I ignore cover saves so I don't care in the slightest, but unless flyers have a rule which says "they don't get the cover save for being 25% obscured", then they can be 25% obscured and thus, gain a 5+ cover save.
That's the only logic that comes into games rules. Common sense is not the same as logic.
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2014/02/03 14:39:23
Subject: cover and flyers
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Battlefortress Driver with Krusha Wheel
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The helldrake also have a 5up invurnable save so they don't have to do the Manouver thing 
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Waagh like a bawz 
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Kaptin Goldteef's waagh!  16250 points 45/18/3 (W/L/D) 7th Ed
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Dark elves: 2350points 3/0/0 (W/L/D)
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Wood Elves 2600 points, 6/4/0 (W/L/D)
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2014/02/03 14:42:34
Subject: cover and flyers
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I'm still trying to figure out why my Crone/Harpy is flying in the air at the start of the game even though she is on the ground.
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2014/02/04 02:13:52
Subject: cover and flyers
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Boom! Leman Russ Commander
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 Iechine wrote:I'm still trying to figure out why my Crone/Harpy is flying in the air at the start of the game even though she is on the ground.
Should've modeled it better/gone to specsavers
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2014/02/04 06:16:57
Subject: Re:cover and flyers
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Tea-Kettle of Blood
Adelaide, South Australia
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Are you advocating modelling for advantage, Scipio?
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 Ailaros wrote:You know what really bugs me? When my opponent, before they show up at the FLGS smears themselves in peanut butter and then makes blood sacrifices to Ashterai by slitting the throat of three male chickens and then smears the spatter pattern into the peanut butter to engrave sacred symbols into their chest and upper arms.
I have a peanut allergy. It's really inconsiderate.
"Long ago in a distant land, I, M'kar, the shape-shifting Master of Chaos, unleashed an unspeakable evil! But a foolish Grey Knight warrior wielding a magic sword stepped forth to oppose me. Before the final blow was struck, I tore open a portal in space and flung him into the Warp, where my evil is law! Now the fool seeks to return to real-space, and undo the evil that is Chaos!" |
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2014/02/04 06:56:26
Subject: cover and flyers
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Dakka Veteran
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I think he's advocating modeling for disadvantage.
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