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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/02/04 06:34:06
Subject: Necron 1500pt Anti Swarm/Heavy Hitter List
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Pile of Necron Spare Parts
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Check out this List and Let me know if you think it will be competitive and if you have any suggestions. Fairly new to the Game but loving it so far. Thanks!
HQ: Necron OverLord
Mindshakle Scarabs
Resurrection Orb
Sempiternal Weave
Phylactery
Warscythe
Royal Court:
1x Harbinger of the Storm w/ Voltic Staff and. Lighting field
2x Harbinger of Transmogrification w/Tremorstave & Harp of Dissonance on one
---------------------- 280pts
Elites:
2x Triarch Stalker w/Heavy Gauss Cannons
--------------------- 330pts
10x Necron Immortals w/Tesla Carbine
10x Necron Immortals w/Tesla Carbine
10x Necron Immortals w/Gauss Blaster
-------------------- 510pts
Heavy Support:
2x Annihilation Barge w/Twin Linked Tesla Destructors & Tesla Cannons
1xMonolith
------------------380pts
1500 points total[/color]
The Idea is to have 3 groups of troops
Distance Uints:
1x Triarch Stalker
10x Tesla Immortals with 1x Tremortex w/ Harp
1x Annihilation Barge
1x Triarch Stalker
10x Tesla Immortals with 1x Tremortex
1 Annihilation Barge
Units that move up the field as cause hell:
1x Monolith
10x Gauss Immortals with 1 Stormtex
1x Necron Overlord
Can Sub Tesla Immortals for Gauss if needed depending on who I am playing. Give Akar credit for some tweaks. Any other suggestions?
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This message was edited 6 times. Last update was at 2014/02/05 04:16:15
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/02/04 09:29:34
Subject: Re:Necron 1500pt Anti Swarm/Heavy Hitter List
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Waaagh! Warbiker
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so hard to read dark blue on dark back grounds.. ergh...
Any way, Seems like a solid list for what you want, not sure why you would take a Gauntlet of Fire?
Apart from that It looks good, Have you tried it against anyone yet?
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Sankhkare (the dynisty of the dead)
Overlord: Soriskh (above all else)
GW= Scissors are fine, Paper is broken, Signed Rock |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/02/04 16:54:33
Subject: Necron 1500pt Anti Swarm/Heavy Hitter List
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Pile of Necron Spare Parts
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I went with the gauntlet of fire because its a template I can use against swarms I hope.... sorry about the color I fixed it. I haven't used it yet because I'm waiting for a few pieces to show up. So do you think it would be able to take some of the big hitter army's also?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/02/04 20:39:25
Subject: Re:Necron 1500pt Anti Swarm/Heavy Hitter List
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Discriminating Deathmark Assassin
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Switch 1 squad of Immortals to Gauss. Both for backup Tank threat and the fact they outperform Tesla once they get in Rapid Fire range. Also, it'll give you the option of using the Monolith to get them into Rapid Fire range and combo it up with the Stalkers.
Stalkers should have Heavy Gauss if possible. That way you at least has something that'll have range, and threaten AV 14. If not the both with Particle casters is going to do more than the Heat Ray.
Nice to see a Gauntlet of Fire, but without any transport or anything to get him within that 8" range, you'll only be using it when you get charged. The Warscythe will do more damage. Drop the Tesseract Labrynth, you already have MSS, and when you switch to a Warcythe, it's not going to do much for you. Oh and the Warscythe will ID swarm bases.
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Current Armies
40k: 15k of Unplayable Necrons
(I miss 7th!)
30k: Imperial Fists
(project for 2025)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/02/04 20:56:41
Subject: Re:Necron 1500pt Anti Swarm/Heavy Hitter List
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Pile of Necron Spare Parts
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Akar wrote:
Nice to see a Gauntlet of Fire, but without any transport or anything to get him within that 8" range, you'll only be using it when you get charged. The Warscythe will do more damage. Drop the Tesseract Labrynth, you already have MSS, and when you switch to a Warcythe, it's not going to do much for you. Oh and the Warscythe will ID swarm bases.
Great advise, but can't I attach the Overlord with the gause immortals and use the monolith the same way to get it with in that 8"?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/02/04 21:04:00
Subject: Necron 1500pt Anti Swarm/Heavy Hitter List
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Discriminating Deathmark Assassin
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You can, but the Overlord works better with the Tesla since you'll be able to assault after if you need to, and be able to use the MSS from the start.
If you put him with the Gauss you'll need to make him a Phaeron, and still won't be able to do that if you use the Monolith.
More often than not, when you pull that unit of Gauss Immortals through the portal it's because you're going to gamble. That unit is going to take a lot of heat whether it succeeds or not. Do you really want your Warlord in with that?
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Current Armies
40k: 15k of Unplayable Necrons
(I miss 7th!)
30k: Imperial Fists
(project for 2025)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/02/04 21:06:41
Subject: Necron 1500pt Anti Swarm/Heavy Hitter List
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Pile of Necron Spare Parts
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Very good point.... So how should I position the Overlord? I'm still new and trying to figure out how to best use him
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/02/04 21:15:42
Subject: Necron 1500pt Anti Swarm/Heavy Hitter List
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Discriminating Deathmark Assassin
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There are 2 places to put him.
The best place for him is going to be in one of the Tesla squads. They're your biggest units, and you'll get the most out of that Orb with them.
The second best place would be with the Cryptek squad. That unit is fairly weak, and would be a bit more survivable with an orb, but be ready to have the Overlord jump ship to a Tesla Squad.
I'm not a fan of Tesla Weapons, as they almost always under perform. Since your only running Immortals as your troops, then it's good to have at least 1 squad of Tesla, so they can participate without approaching the enemy.
There is NOTHING wrong with your setup, it'll be fun and competitive. If I were going to run something like this, then it'd be 1 Squad of a Tesla, 2 with Gauss. Drop 1 Stormtek, and then you can put a Cryptek in each squad. The Tremortek with the Tesla, the stormteks with the 2 Gauss.
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Current Armies
40k: 15k of Unplayable Necrons
(I miss 7th!)
30k: Imperial Fists
(project for 2025)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/02/04 21:28:49
Subject: Necron 1500pt Anti Swarm/Heavy Hitter List
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Pile of Necron Spare Parts
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Thanks I will make changes to the list when I get to a CPU. I was thinking with 2 stalkers I can tarket 2 troops each turn and twin link the misses for more 6's. Basically 1 unit of Tesla Immortals with a storm tech for each starker and my guass immortals will stick with the monolith with my Lord and the tremortek. Lastly the barges with each be close a tesla immortals squad for support swell. So all around 3 units of death. I think its effective in theory...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/02/04 21:53:32
Subject: Necron 1500pt Anti Swarm/Heavy Hitter List
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Discriminating Deathmark Assassin
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CamaroGuru wrote:Thanks I will make changes to the list when I get to a CPU. I was thinking with 2 stalkers I can tarket 2 troops each turn and twin link the misses for more 6's.
I fully understand WHY you're taking the Stalker and teaming them up with the Tesla Immortals, but remember you're only re-rolling the 1's and 2's, not every dice that doesn't roll a 6. Im pretty sure you're aware of this, but just covering my bases. It's a good setup. You have a Tesla Squad, A Stalker, and a Barge working together, in 2 different places on the field. Then you have the 3rd unit working with the Monolith to have some mobility, and optional threat. Most of your games, you'll be using Blast on the Monolith, but I recommended the Gauss because if you need to inflict multiple wounds on MCs, or something, then these have a better chance than the 1 wound that the Blast might get. It's going to take some practice to learn when to use the Immortals over the Blast, but at least you have the option.
CamaroGuru wrote: Basically 1 unit of Tesla Immortals with a storm tech for each starker and my guass immortals will stick with the monolith with my Lord and the tremortek. Lastly the barges with each be close a tesla immortals squad for support swell. So all around 3 units of death. I think its effective in theory...
Either I'm not reading this right, or you got me wrong. Remember you can only have 1 member of a court attached to a squad. Since you have 4 Crypteks, then I assumed that you were running them as one unit. They can't be assigned to Triarch Stalkers, it's not an option. So if you want to help them out, then you should drop one Cryptek, then assign them to the squads.
Just to be clear, this is how I'd run them:
1 unit of Tesla Immortals w/Tremortek
2 units of Gauss Immortals with Stormteks
With what you said, it sounds like you're putting the Tremortek in with the Gauss and the Lord, which is what you don't want to do on your list.
If you're going to stick with the 2 or 3 Tesla Immortals, which sounds like it's what you want to do, then it's fine.
It should be like this:
Drop the Tremortek, and put a Stormtek in all 3 Squads of Immortals.
Remember that with Tesla, you want to stay out of Rapid Fire Range, the Tremorteks help out a little with that. You want the Gauss Immortals to get INTO rapid fire range, and a Tremortek with them would only slow that down.
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Current Armies
40k: 15k of Unplayable Necrons
(I miss 7th!)
30k: Imperial Fists
(project for 2025)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/02/04 22:05:27
Subject: Necron 1500pt Anti Swarm/Heavy Hitter List
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Pile of Necron Spare Parts
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Makes perfect since now lol sorry was reading it wrong I will make adjustments soon. Running with these changes will free up about 15pts and allow me to run 2 twin linked gauss cannons. What do you suggest for the 15pts? Either a ether crystal or something else? I do want to run the crytex with each unit so I will drop a stormtex.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/02/04 22:37:12
Subject: Necron 1500pt Anti Swarm/Heavy Hitter List
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Discriminating Deathmark Assassin
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Make your changes, then post the list.
The 15 points isn't going to make much of a difference, but there are 3 places to spend it.
1-Phylactery, cause why not.
2-Seismic Crucible to further slow down the enemy from assaulting the Tesla Immortals. This makes for an expensive Cryptek though, and a good sniper target.
3-Crystal is a good choice, especially if you're going up against a Mawloc. However, your army is so spread out, that your opponent will prob hit something else.
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Current Armies
40k: 15k of Unplayable Necrons
(I miss 7th!)
30k: Imperial Fists
(project for 2025)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/02/05 04:04:11
Subject: Necron 1500pt Anti Swarm/Heavy Hitter List
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Pile of Necron Spare Parts
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I went with 2 termortex so I have 2 fully committed distance units both being tesla oriented made it seem like the Voltic wouldn't be a good fit. Also I'm thinking this can almost be an all comers list...
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2014/02/05 04:15:38
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/02/05 05:10:14
Subject: Necron 1500pt Anti Swarm/Heavy Hitter List
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Discriminating Deathmark Assassin
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Looks good, and it's different.
Only thing to start doing now is playing games and seeing how it goes. The only thing that I can suggest tactically, is you're going to have to learn when to Deep Strike the Monolith, and when to start it on the board. It's an experience thing.
List should do pretty well against most opponents. Going to have an issue with fast, vehicle based armies, but even then, you're still resilient enough. Keep us posted on how it goes.
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Current Armies
40k: 15k of Unplayable Necrons
(I miss 7th!)
30k: Imperial Fists
(project for 2025)
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