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Made in nz
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Here is my 1000 point list
I am trying to beat a Tau player That seems very competitive
He usually fields 2 Hammerheads 3 squads of 12 fire warriors Cadre fireblade, crisis suits and either pathfinders, skyray, another hammerhead or kroot.
We usually play victory points

Hq
Belial
total: 160 points

Troops
Deatwing Terminator Squad
total: 220 points

10 man tactical squad
w/ flamer
Rhino
total:190 points

Elites
Venerable Dreadnought
DT Drop Pod w/ locator beacon
total: 170 points

Venerable Dreadnought
DT Drop Pod
total:160 points

Fast Attack
Assault squad
w/2 flamers segeant w/ melta bombs
total:95 points

Total: 995 points


Tactics
1st turn: turboboost the Rhino and move the assault squad 6 in moving and 2d6 in the assault phase to maximize movement
2nd turn: Hopefully Deepstrike the drop pods and Terminators, move up rhino and assault squad shoot multimeltas at the hammerheads and hopefully make them explode
3rd turn : move up assault squad and rhino 6'' disembark tactical marines and start dakkadakkaing with the bolters on the fire warriors have the dreadnoughts wreck some havoc
and the terminators assault the crisis suits. Assault squad assault fire warriors or other infantry he fields.

This is a best situation Tactics. If drop pods or terminators don't deepstrike then there jobs will move back.

I am open to any feed back you may have.



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St. George, Utah

Well first off, Belial is 190 points, not 160. A 10 man tactical squad + Rhino + flamer is only 180 points. Your list there is actually 1015, not 995.

Deathwing terminators due to their rules automatically deep strike on turn 1 or turn 2, depending on which you pick. There is no need, whatsoever, for the locator beacon on the drop pod with the dread. They'll be with Belial, anyway, so the terminators won't scatter.

If he's bringing a lot of footslog Tau, give the terminator who can equip a heavy weapon a Heavy Flamer. He'll single-handedly roast an entire Pathfinder squad, because Deathwing Terminators have a special rule called "Vengeful Strike" which gives them twin-linked guns on the turn they arrive from deep strike. Twin-linked template weapons mean you reroll the Wound rolls. S5 wounds Tau infantry on a 2+ (they are only T3), ignores cover which they'd want to try to be in, AND beats the armor of any non-Battlesuit in that entire codex. No saves + reroll insurance in case you roll 1s on your hits + automatically hits + you can splitfire anyway so the 4 terminators and Belial will potentially dakka the hell out of another one of his squads?

Trust me. You'll be a really happy camper. Again, with Belial, you'll deep strike exactly where you need to be, exactly when you need to, and can position the heavy flamer guy to straight eat his pathfinders.

I don't think I'd bother with the venerable upgrade for either dreadnought. BS 5 is nice, but 4 should be sufficient as you'll gib any of his hammerheads. You'll also get the shot off before the hammerheads get to fire at your dreads as they'll be deep striking in. Chances are if they don't blow up the Hammerheads, they are going to die anyway so saving 50 points on your list to throw elsewhere is huge.

Also not sure I'd bother with the assault squad, at all. The set up works for the player you're fighting, though. Still, you're playing Dark Angels. You can take bikers. Scout move turn 1 and you're already within assault distance if the enemy gets the first turn and they somehow survive the shooting phase.

Added: Also keep in mind if you are ever just 5 points under, you can always throw a chainfist or TH/SS onto one of your terminators.

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2014/02/06 10:23:36


 
   
Made in nz
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heres another go

Hq
Belial-190

Troops
Deatwing terminator squad-235
Heavy flamer, Chainfist

10 man tactical squad-190
flamer and heavy bolter
Rhino

Elites
Dreadnought-135
Drop pod

Dreadnought-135
Drop pod

Fast Attack
RW attack squad 4 bikes -117
2 flamers

Total-1002 points









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I agree with SRS. The Deathwing Assault special rule with Vengeful Strike is awesome. I would recommend something like an assault cannon, however. It's 4 shots at strength 6, twin-linked for the deep strike turn.

Since there are a lot of vehicles, what about a Devastator squad instead of the bikes? I'm still learning a bit myself so I could be totally wrong.
   
 
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