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Hello everybody,
I have a 5 round 1000 point tournament coming up next week, and I have come to the conclusion that hound rush would probably be the best (likely better than the double chaos lord spawn rush I was planning).

Anyways, here is my list so far:

2 Khorne Heralds on Juggernauts with one lesser reward each.

1x 20 daemonettes

2x 10 horrors

2x 13 flesh hounds

996 points

I don't know if I should drop more things to make room for any loci? I'm thinking the one that gives hatred, but I'm debating on this point level.

Anyways, help would be much appreciated since I am not very experienced with hound lists, but I have run spawn rush a lot.



Argel Tal and Cyrene: Still a better love story than Twilight 
   
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Firstly I'd drop 2 Daemonettes for 2 Horrors. 11 Horrors get 2 warp charge rather than 1. I would like to see a Grimoire in there somewhere.

Do you need Hatred? Well what are you fighting? Against T4 those Hounds are going on average 17.33 wounds without hatred. If you drop 2 Hounds to get hatred you do 19.56. Add in the Heralds Ap2 attacks and with Hatred you're basically wiping anything in a single turn without it you're killing in 2 rounds.

Against Riptides the numbers work like this:

Hatred:
Herald 6 attacks 1.7778 unsaved wounds
11 Hounds 1.68 unsaved wounds so 3 wounds done he's hitting back on 5s may kill 1 or none it probably dies next round (1.11 more wounds done for total 4.57 in the two rounds)

Without
Herald 6 attacks 1.33 unsaved wounds
13 hounds 1.444 unsaved wounds, so again about 3 wounds but you're looking more likely for a 3rd round kill.

So its up to you and what's in your meta. I prefer to kill things in 2 rounds of combat as you take less fire also without hatred you're getting more wounds in the list. With Hatred your unit maintains combat efficiency even after severe casualties so its a trade off.

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^ As above. I think you'd see benefit from running them with hatred / rage.

I'd personally have a grimoire on one of the heralds, to make sure they're absorbing as much firepower as possible. Possibly a portalglyph on the other.

The list looks really nice - I'm a massive fan of the herald + hounds.
   
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Thanks a lot guys. I've had a lot of success with Flying Circus but wanted to try a different animal (plus flying circus can't work at this point level anyway).
I am very hesitant to use a grimoire because I've seen how often fatey's reroll is necessary plus that herald loses AP2 and the master-crafted... I also think the portaglyph would be nice but I think 3 hard to kill troops are more than enough? I don't know though, I haven't played this kind of list yet.
I also don't know about adding an extra horror because that makes losing 1 horror really hurt, and that's bound to happen quick.

Anyways, here is my revised list:

Jugger herald with grimoire and exalted locus

Jugger herald with lesser reward and Exalted locus

16 daemonettes

10 horrors

10 horrors

2x 12 flesh hounds

What do you guys think now?



Argel Tal and Cyrene: Still a better love story than Twilight 
   
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I'd still drop 2 daemonettes for the 11th Horror in each squad that means 3d6 shots rather than 2d6 that's a 50% increase in firepower for 9 points.

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OK

Yeah that's true. Even if it's one turn of shooting D6 extra shots would be nice.



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